Alternative of TV remote

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Parth786

Joined Jun 19, 2017
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Hope you are doing well

I have basic idea on my mind. Today the smart phone is being used everywhere. I am curious to know how can we make smart phone, a TV remote. App on mobile will allow it to communicate with TV. Can we make smart phone, a TV remote. Does it have more advantage or disadvantage?

I have searched on google and I think it can be possible. It can be done by using raspberry Pi / ESP wifi Module but I do not understand what extra circuit would be used for whole project. I have read it that IR led will be used but I am confuse so please tell me , What extra module will be used for this purpose ?
 

paulktreg

Joined Jun 2, 2008
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The TV remote does use a IR LED to communicate with the TV so that rules out the smart phone in that respect.

I'm not sure what you're trying to do here? The Amazon Fire Stick can be controlled by a smart phone and Alexa now by all accounts so most channels can be viewed.

My TV is a dated Samsung Series 6 that was a smart TV in it's time but I would be very surprised if what you're asking isn't available on the latest TV's via the internet and an app rather than IR?
 

wayneh

Joined Sep 9, 2010
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Most TVs require an IR signal. These are transmitted on a modulated carrier. I forget the common standard but it’s something like 85kHz.

Most phones don’t have an IR LED so you’d need an add-on device to use your phone as a transmitter. And then you’d have to obtain the codes for your TV. Many are available.

Another approach might be to use Bluetooth. Then you’d have to build a device at the TV that could receive BT from your phone and translate it to an IR signal and beam that directly into your TV’s IR receiver. Personally I think this is a more practical solution than hanging something off your phone.
 

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Parth786

Joined Jun 19, 2017
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but I would be very surprised if what you're asking isn't available on the latest TV's via the internet and an app rather than IR?
That's why I am asking. Is it possible?
Personally I think this is a more practical solution than hanging something off your phone.
My Doubt is that if I want to do this, then how can I do. I will use smart phone and raspberry Pi. I don't understand about extra circuit.
Do I have to add raspberry Pi with IR module in the TV circuit Do I need only a IR LED or I have to buy IR module IC
 

spinnaker

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Parth786

Joined Jun 19, 2017
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2 minutes of searching
Did you read my post carefully. There were two question's, first question was " can I make this project with Pi/ESP8266 and second was " What's the extra circuit need to make complete project.

The link that you posted, Is there any useful information related to hardware part of product. Do you get information what's the controller and sensor's they are using in product. In my 2 minutes of searching I found lot's of material but I posted question because I don't understand some basic about this project. I explained what I know and I am looking information that I don't know. so I just try to figure out the basic requirement of this project.

Why should the TS/OP waste his time? When he can get you to do it.
Ohh My God. so you don't see my any effort's
 
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spinnaker

Joined Oct 29, 2009
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Did you read my post carefully. There were two question's, first question was " can I make this project with Pi/ESP8266 and second was " What's the extra circuit need to make complete project.

The link that you posted, Is there any useful information related to hardware part of product. Do you get information what's the controller and sensor's they are using in product. In my 2 minutes of searching I found lot's of material but I posted question because I don't understand some basic about this project. so I just try to figure out the basic requirement of this project.


Ohh My God. so you don't see my any effort's

Did you see my post responding to the question you asked? You asked if it is possible. The link I posted shows the answer is yes.

My guess is their module is converting audio to I/R. The software sends out an encoded sound that gets converted to I/R. If you wanted to build the software too, you would need to figure out the encoding on you existing remote.

If you are asking if it is possible for you to do it then judging from your other posts I would have to say no.
 
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DbLoud120

Joined May 26, 2014
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I use a Samsung Galaxy S5 and a Samsung remote app using ir signal from phone to control tv. Nothing extra added to phone, ir capability is built in to the phone.
 

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Parth786

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If you are asking if it is possible for you to do it then judging from your other posts I would have to say no.
Have you noticed on my earlier post carefully ?

look here https://forum.allaboutcircuits.com/search/6173643/ https://forum.allaboutcircuits.com/threads/automatic-meter-reading-system.144280/
I have mention special note in second link that I am not going to implement this project practically. I just wanted to improve my project design skills. and if you seen my first post #1 in this thread. I am not saying that I am going to implement practically.

There are many reason to not implement the project practically. lack of programming skills and cost of modules. I shared my idea and tried to know, can it be implement. I think , I will aware more with embedded system if l discuss about the projects. I am not asking question without searching on internet.
 
Hey,Samsung does have a remote for the phone. http://www.samsung.com/global/article/articleDetailView.do?atcl_id=20

I have a series 6 (6300) Smart TV (actually very dumb) TV, but have not attempted to download the app. My Android version is like the second or 2rd generation, so almost nothing works on my phone. In a lot of cases I can;t even download anything.

Since it is connected to the Internet, there is no need for an IR blaster.

It really is a dumb TV, Goggle has a youtube app and it won't allow keyboad access. I can;t even turn the TV off with a keyboard. I can bring upn the joystick menu, but can do nothing with it.

This is what I found:
( ) means without Function Key depressed

Esc (back)
F1 (not available)
F2 (Not available)
F3 (Not available)
F4 (Not available)
F5 (Smart Hub)
F6 (Sources)
F7 (All Channels – to the right)
F8 Mute/ push again: Channel list on left
F9 Channel Down Left edge – (won't change them)
F10 Channel UP left of screen (won't change them)
F11 Channel Down – immediate
F12 Channel UP – immediate
(F12) Joystick Menu that you can't navigate
(F12 w/TV off) Power ON
Windows Key TV menu

Return Enter or bring up info in TV mode
<Control>+ A-Z (nothing)

Channel Direct entry
Use numbers and or dash key
Physical channel can be entered too with KEYBOARD ONLY. I think physical unscanned channels can be entered, but not sure.
e.g. 30 for 29.1 if that;s the mapping in your area.

Lots of things are just plain dumb about the TV. Been wanting to review it.

Samsung bug: Push joystick
Can't move Up/Dn, L/R with remote or Keyboard

The keybord I'm using is a Logitech wireless USB - It requires a USB dongle at the TV.
 

spinnaker

Joined Oct 29, 2009
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Have you noticed on my earlier post carefully ?

look here https://forum.allaboutcircuits.com/search/6173643/ https://forum.allaboutcircuits.com/threads/automatic-meter-reading-system.144280/
I have mention special note in second link that I am not going to implement this project practically. I just wanted to improve my project design skills. and if you seen my first post #1 in this thread. I am not saying that I am going to implement practically.

There are many reason to not implement the project practically. lack of programming skills and cost of modules. I shared my idea and tried to know, can it be implement. I think , I will aware more with embedded system if l discuss about the projects. I am not asking question without searching on internet.

So if you are not interested in doing this project then why are you asking how to do it? It is obvious it can be done because it has been done. It is easy to figure out how it was done if you look at the existing product.
 

spinnaker

Joined Oct 29, 2009
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The way I would do the project would be to build a Bluetooth receiver / IR transmitter. Line the transmitter up with the receiver on your TV. That way you don't need a dongle attached to the phone. Just an app to make it happen.

I used to have a "remote booster" that did this. There was a receiver, the existing remote would transmit to the IR receiver. It in turn would transmit RF to the II transmitter. The IR transmitter would transmit the IR to the TV.
 
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