Any society that has to spy on its own citizens to survive deserves to fall cuz civilization is for ppl not the other way around!

I think we have an anarchist (or two) in the pile.

 

and if you use the utopian BitCoin instead of fiat, every translation will be tracked into a worldwide open ledger that anyone can trace.
http://fiatleak.com/

nsaspook that's absolutely correct and most ppl don't even know it

 

Shall we reinstate slavery too?

Tyranny will be enough.

 

I think we have an anarchist (or two) in the pile.

#12 When the Govt stops governing then by definition everyone is an anarchist whether they like it or not

 

Tyranny will be enough.

Don't think reinstatement of slavery is that far fetched! I'll bet you mandatorily signed up for it at the PO on your 18'th B-Day?

 

Now I have to count to 100 for my BP's sake cuz political talk does it to me every time

I've been looking at, "the other news" lately, mostly as a desensitization exercise. When I see how much and how violent the corruption around me is, my mind begins to accept reality instead of raising my blood pressure. This comes from my insight that the main cause of emotional discomfort is the difference between reality and beliefs. As long as I believe the world shouldn't be the way it is, the longer I stay unhappy. Only by realizing what reality is can I work with it correctly, and I don't believe elevated B.P. is an effective strategy.

 

#12 When the Govt stops governing then by definition everyone is an anarchist whether they like it or not

You claim the government officials are corrupt but somehow think citizens are inherently honest. Announce an end to audits and you will see an end to tax payers. Oversight is necessary evil of a society.

 

unenforceable laws are practically the same as repealed laws

I disagree. Unrepealed laws are still in the tyrant's inventory. All the tyrant has to do is call into session a secret court or a kangaroo court to use unjust laws to destroy whomever is inconvenient.

 

Don't think reinstatement of slavery is that far fetched! I'll bet you mandatorily signed up for it at the PO on your 18'th B-Day?

Not slavery. They pay and freedom is not free. They may draft me but I know my parents are free because of it (and if I am successful, my kids will stay free as well).

 

You claim the government officials are corrupt but somehow think citizens are inherently honest. Announce an end to audits and you will see an end to tax payers. Oversight is necessary evil of a society.

GopherT I'm not advocating total cessation of audits just end of audits and any type of investigation without probable cause Cuz otherwise it constitutes random search and seizure! Now maybe this will surprise you but I totally agree with airport and all public transportation searches cuz the passengers have voluntarily chosen to ride on the facilities of another so that's their choice!

 

GopherT I'm not advocating total cessation of audits just end of audits and any type of investigation without probable cause Cuz otherwise it constitutes random search and seizure!

I think you've named a very good point. When some people say, "Get the government out of my bedroom", some other people say, "Aha! So you want to destroy our country!" That must be some well recognized logical fallacy. Adhering to the Constitution is not an act of treason.

 

Not slavery. They pay and freedom is not free. They may draft me but I know my parents are free because of it (and if I am successful, my kids will stay free as well).

GopherT I say you can't have it both ways! Conscription is slavery and conscription leading to death of the conscripted is murder! So buying freedom and life with freedom and life makes no sense at all to me

GopherT I say everything you said makes perfect sense for voluntary service though

 

I've been looking at, "the other news" lately, mostly as a desensitization exercise. When I see how much and how violent the corruption around me is, my mind begins to accept reality instead of raising my blood pressure. This comes from my insight that the main cause of emotional discomfort is the difference between reality and beliefs. As long as I believe the world shouldn't be the way it is, the longer I stay unhappy. Only by realizing what reality is can I work with it correctly, and I don't believe elevated B.P. is an effective strategy.

#12 That sounds like serenity? Whatever it is I hope it comes to me with time! The sooner the better!

 

I could accumulate $10,001 dollars and still think it's nobody's business but my own.

The question about transporting over 10,000 and reporting transactions over 10k come from a 30 plus year law in the fight against the illegal drug business. Money laundering is also a game people play who are associated with the illegal drug distribution system. Typically it's asked for those international travelers using various modes of transportation.

 

Gee, talking about spinning off the tracks! Does anyone want to see my pictures of elephants in Boswana?

 

Gee, talking about spinning off the tracks!

jgessling Relax! We'll be less jumpy after Nov 8! Depressed either way for sure but less jumpy

 

Ya'll realize the Selective Service hasn't drafted anyone since 1974. The law has to change as men AND women should be required to register as there are very few jobs restricted to men in the military today. But they skirted around the law before Jan 2016.

They skirt around the law, as women serve in "support" units. Read Ashley's War, the story of one such support unit that was in the field with the men, and have been for a while, when Lt Ashley was shot and killed. I read the kindle version while awaiting at the VA.

 

Sorry folks, not enough room in the title to specify it was in Zimbabwe dollars.

The 10Trillion dollar note is worth about 0.40 US dollars. They can be purchased on ebay for more than $5 each as a novelty item/collectable.

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Recent hyper inflation (5000% on zimbabwe dollar basis on local goods/services) has been halted by simply abandoning a local currency and using the currency of multiple countries/regions instead.

I'm surprised the value of these bills has not skyrocketed because of extensive use in folk medicine - a method to cause hyper inflation.

I have a dear friend that's in Zimbabwe right now. They actually encourage using US dollars, rather than going to the currency exchange to get piles of Zimbabwe dollars. The first time I went to Thailand was right after a severe devaluation....which is actually great for us visitors.

Zimbabwe is going to come into its own soon....they just had to get rid of the Robert Mugabe. They have tremendous resources, and I think they've learned some lessons.

Eric

 

Typically it's asked for those international travelers using various modes of transportation.

JoeJester it used to be that _structuring_ wasn't a crime all too itself but rules were changed so ppl have lost their businesses and livelihoods for just repeatedly making like $9k deposits even though investigation proved no criminal activity!

reporting transactions over 10k come from a 30 plus year law in the illegal drug business. Money laundering is also a game people play who are associated with the illegal drug distribution system.

I say narcotics laws are mostly a Govt rationalization to hassle and conduct surveillance on everyone! They know that easiest way to stop drug trade is to destroy market by decriminalization! Nobody can convince me that the federal Govt spends all that money and manpower just to save some losers from themselves! I say the whole war on drugs thing is abt government power and reach

 

ppl have lost their businesses and livelihoods for just repeatedly making like $9k deposits even though investigation proved no criminal activity!

True.

I say narcotics laws are mostly a Govt rationalization to hassle and conduct surveillance on everyone!

Try looking at drugs as untaxed commerce. The government is not motivated by concern for morals or health, that's just their PR spin. The government is concerned with wealth and power. Declaring War on Untaxed Commerce suspends the Constitution. That gives the government the power to intimidate anybody and surveil everybody. We The People are at war with our own government, by declaration of the government. You and I might not be doing any untaxed commerce, but the war has been declared and we are being treated as enemy combatants. If you don't believe it, say, "Constitution" to a LEO and watch how fast he laughs at you.