Width and angle of router bit?

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spinnaker

Joined Oct 29, 2009
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Ordered these a while back. Of course I never marked their specs. Can anyone hazard a guess at their width and angle?


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spinnaker

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But what is the width of the cutting surface (tip diameter)? I need that to calculate cutting width for isolation routing.


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wayneh

Joined Sep 9, 2010
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Don't you keep your order records? For me, it's my e-mail database. If I can remember what it's called, I can find the details of anything I've ordered in over a decade. (Yeah, the database is kinda big.) Short of that, I'd say get your micrometer out.
 

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spinnaker

Joined Oct 29, 2009
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Don't you keep your order records? For me, it's my e-mail database. If I can remember what it's called, I can find the details of anything I've ordered in over a decade. (Yeah, the database is kinda big.) Short of that, I'd say get your micrometer out.

Ordered from ebay but it is a generic description now after all of this time. No details on exactly what was ordered.

I am measuring .32 mm with my cheapie micrometer and that is about what I have entered as a tool diameter for the last time I used pcb gcode a year ago.


Does that sound right?
 

wayneh

Joined Sep 9, 2010
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I may misunderstand but isn't the thickness of the router blade (the z-axis perpendicular to the screen when viewing your drawing above) far more than that?
 

wayneh

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But the hole cut by that tip will be at least as wide as the thickness of the blade, won't it? I think that's probably more than 0.32mm.
 

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spinnaker

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But the hole cut by that tip will be at least as wide as the thickness of the blade, won't it? I think that's probably more than 0.32mm.
No you don't mill that deep. There is a calculator out there (don't have it handy right now) that tells you the actual width based off the width of the tip and angle of the bland and depth being cut.
 

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spinnaker

Joined Oct 29, 2009
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I think I would just try it at different depths and see what results I like. ;)

It is not the depth of the cut. It is the width I need to know. The isolation software needs to know how many passes it will need to make. Of course I can still experiment.
 

shortbus

Joined Sep 30, 2009
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a digital vernier, but I did not know they were called that. ;)
Just know a vernier , digital, dial or a true vernier is still easier to not get the correct feel with it when measuring. And just being "digital" doesn't make them any more accurate, just easier to read.

Even knowing the 'width' of the tip on those type cutters doesn't mean that's how wide they will cut. A test cut at depth of cut is a better and probably the only way to really know. Those "D" engraving cutters are not held to the same standards as an end mill. A little off center with the grind will make the path of cutting edge rotation eccentric giving a larger than expected cut.
 

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spinnaker

Joined Oct 29, 2009
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Just know a vernier , digital, dial or a true vernier is still easier to not get the correct feel with it when measuring. And just being "digital" doesn't make them any more accurate, just easier to read.

Even knowing the 'width' of the tip on those type cutters doesn't mean that's how wide they will cut. A test cut at depth of cut is a better and probably the only way to really know. Those "D" engraving cutters are not held to the same standards as an end mill. A little off center with the grind will make the path of cutting edge rotation eccentric giving a larger than expected cut.
Yes I am aware.

I am sure you know that the width of the cut can also be estimated by using its tip width and its angle.

http://woodworkerb.com/home/pcb-isolation-routing/tool-width-calculator/

I am considering moving to end mills. Supposedly, you can go to 10-mil trace-and-space clearance with end mills and they make for a neater job.
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MaxHeadRoom

Joined Jul 18, 2013
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I am considering moving to end mills. Supposedly, you can go to 10-mil trace-and-space clearance with end mills and they make for a neater job.
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You need a spindle with acceptable run out when using these, I picked up a Japanese made engraver head off ebay cheap.
Max.
 
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