Why do we get old and die?

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strantor

Joined Oct 3, 2010
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Thin mints are the best. Samosas are also worth buying. People who like the other ones creep me out.

P.S. Dollar General sells thin mints and samosas (and probably the other ones I don't care about) under different names, and I'm convinced they come from the same exact factory. I think they're a Dollar. Not that I support large corporations undercutting little girls who are trying to raise money for their cause, but ya know, if you're a thin mints addict and you can't find any girl scouts to get your fix, now you know where to go.
 

joeyd999

Joined Jun 6, 2011
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@cmartinez

If the year was first defined in 45BC when the 365 day Julian calendar defined the year, what was the definition in Moses time?

Arguing time, with respect to the bible has no basis. Our references are not their references, and their basis could be one of many.
Are you saying the aureus I purchased marked "150 B.C." is a fake???
 

Sinus23

Joined Sep 7, 2013
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I have been experiencing the same sort of symptoms minus the chalky taste since I have been on my "slightly less carbs" diet. 20lbs lost but I feel underpowered. Weak and shaky. My hands shake if do anything strenuous. My legs shake if try to lift my own body weight from a squat. Even 20lbs ago it was easier. I googled my symptoms and came up with "hypoglycemic." My sister also says she's hypoglycemic. Apparently my body wants more sugar. Well damned if I do and damned if I don't.
Have you tried fish? Cod, salmon, haddock... Back at the farm pretty much all we ate was fish, wholewheat bread,oatmeal, milk with the cream floating on top of it and a little bit of lamb. Sounds satirical but I just think that the farmer had grown bored of meat since that was pretty much all that was available in his youth. The only source of refined sugar was from the jam we put on our bread at the 3 pm coffee break.

And we had energy to work from dawn to dusk. Him being close to 60 at the time(90's) and still going strong today.

May not be everybody´s cup of tea.;)
 

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strantor

Joined Oct 3, 2010
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@cmartinez

If the year was first defined in 45BC when the 365 day Julian calendar defined the year, what was the definition in Moses time?

Arguing time, with respect to the bible has no basis. Our references are not their references, and their basis could be one of many.

http://www.historyworld.net/wrldhis/PlainTextHistories.asp?gtrack=pthc&ParagraphID=bvu#bvu
From the link I posted in post #94:

For example, one explanation is that the ancient Near East understanding of a year could be different than our concept of a year today. Perhaps a year meant an orbit of the moon (a month) instead of an orbit of the sun (12 months).

But if we make the changes accordingly, while it brings the age of the biblical figure Adam down from 930 to a more reasonable 77 at the time of his death, it also means he would have fathered his son Seth at the age of 11. And Enoch would have only been 5 years old when he fathered Methuselah.
 

tcmtech

Joined Nov 4, 2013
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@cmartinez

If the year was first defined in 45BC when the 365 day Julian calendar defined the year, what was the definition in Moses time?

Arguing time, with respect to the bible has no basis. Our references are not their references, and their basis could be one of many.

http://www.historyworld.net/wrldhis/PlainTextHistories.asp?gtrack=pthc&ParagraphID=bvu#bvu
That's what I have read from multiple sources over the years.

Back then the lunar cycle was by far the most easily understood and near universally accepted time scale beyond a day. In most warmer regions of the world where there is no huge variations in seasonal weather and most people had poor understandings of the concept of time to begin with, beyond what their religious/cult celebrations informed them of when a year had passed, for them was about as accurate as any of us measuring a decade accurately without clocks and calendars and the like to go by and assuming every major religious celebration party we had marked a year's passage.

If making sure you and your family stayed alive until at least tomorrow was your primary concern how accurately do you think you could keep track of the passage of a decade today? Probably about as well as most back then could a year.

Then add on the exaggerations of time and the like that tend to go with historical storytelling and folklore and it's not to hard to end up with someone who may have managed to live to the age of 90 and had 20+ kids through multiple wives back then being accounted for being 900 years old and having dozens or even hundreds of wives and kids!
 

cmartinez

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JoeJester

Joined Apr 26, 2005
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Are you saying the aureus I purchased marked "150 B.C." is a fake???
Nope. by someone's metric it is correct. If you want to argue the days ... they we would be in trouble.

December ... dec = 10, Ol' Julius and Augustus had to have their own months ... so sep, oct, nov, dec pushed to the higher number.

The Jewish calendar and Muslim calendar do not coincide with the Gregorian calendar.

Not to mention the ancient calendars that started the year when Sirus was in plain view from a certain point, 365 days, six hours later. At least you got a good night's sleep on that last day ... with the six hour addition. :)
 

killivolt

Joined Jan 10, 2010
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I find this interesting that our Ancestors could be so stupid, we assume myth is myth and the facts are unobtainum. Science is Science and refutation of such that there is nothing to pin down so therefor didn't exist, yet we see ourselves humans as the human animal and evidence of things that don't fit in a timeline is shot in the bum of history.

Neanderthals lived and having a Cranial Mass larger than our own, and how long did they live before modern humans its so difficult to not leap to a conclusion when modern science says cranial mass is the determine factor, yet we know nothing of the sort in the fossil record. No discovery yet will conclude they were capable of processing information like modern humans or did they simply choose a different path, like the Hopi Indians who descended from the Clovis or possibly Solutrean in France did not choose to ascend to form cultures because it was not in their nature to do so or they knew something we did not, they possessed the intellectual ability so why not then rather than taking a leap with Neandertals let just go back to 20 thousand years ago?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solutrean_hypothesis

If we say maybe? You can take the misfit info abstracting pieces that don't fit and add them where you want to make a different picture, but now it's not scientific? The Sun rises and is Morning and it sets evening and we sleep to wake to a second day by a calendar that is set by the equinox and 2 moons which can be tracked even back then. Many in the science community still say we didn't start cultivation until 5 thousand years ago or the art of animal husbandry prior to that humans were only hunter gathers. Ancient Indians, Aztecs, Chinese, English, who possibly did more than we give them credit.

Like this evidence ( http://tywkiwdbi.blogspot.com/2012/03/new-evidence-supports-solutrean.html ) it just doesn't fit the Academic inner view, I've seen it hear on the campus every year. What happens is a someone in the science community writes books still published and or Teach another who Teaches Paleontology or Archeology supported by money from sales that exchanges hands among the Science community and like a bunch of Musk Ox they protect each others profits and interest and egos until they die like Neanderthals, even then many new Professors will still support a previous view rather than that of a fresh perspective simply because they don't have enough support in the Fossil record or support by other scientist unwilling to Teach something they need base their current PhD degrees on which means they would have to go back to school or do something outside the limit of their energy to accomplish.

kv :D

Edit: My apologies for the hyperbole now :p
 
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joeyd999

Joined Jun 6, 2011
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Neanderthals...
It is well know that Neanderthals were space aliens on a sex holiday. They "enjoyed" the Cro-Magnon women and promptly left Earth to get back to work. The "Girl-in-Every-Port" theory suggests that we have related "brothers" and "sisters" scattered about the universe.
 

killivolt

Joined Jan 10, 2010
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It is well know that Neanderthals were space aliens on a sex holiday. They "enjoyed" the Cro-Magnon women and promptly left Earth to get back to work. The "Girl-in-Every-Port" theory suggests that we have related "brothers" and "sisters" scattered about the universe.
You made my day:p

Ok makes sense when my daughter wanted me to purchase a DNA kit for her, she said she had some Neanderthal Genes but she didn't get them from me.

She got them from my Ex, seems my Clovis Genes were working over time that year:eek:

kv
 
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