which part of SMPS circuit needs to be changed if we want its DC output from 36v 6 A to 60v 6A????

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Atish260188

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kindly go through the attached reference document of EV charger design for DC output 36v 6A for AC i/p 230v AC. Here considering this reference design, I want its DC output 60v 6A. Then which part of the circuit needs tobe changed????
also, I want DC output 48v 12 A
also, I want DC output 60v 10A

so, considering this attached reference design, which part of the circuit needs to be changed for various DC output voltage and current???? AC input is same for all the above specifications that is 230v AC
thanks
 

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Atish260188

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with change in transformer winding, I can change its dc output voltage from 36v to 60 v however to change its output current from 6A to 10A, which component value needs to be changed????
 

Sensacell

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The entire design needs to change.

You are asking to almost double the power output, the entire design is for 200 Watts and you want 360 watts.
You cannot put 5 pounds of olives in a 2 pound bag.
 

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Atish260188

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The entire design needs to change.

You are asking to almost double the power output, the entire design is for 200 Watts and you want 360 watts.
You cannot put 5 pounds of olives in a 2 pound bag.
so which are the major components we need to change in order to achieve desired output power??? from 200w to 360 w
 

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Atish260188

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Also, in which case, by changing just transformer values, we can achieve desired output power from the reference design???
and in which all case, we need to change entire design for achieving desired output power from reference design???
 

Papabravo

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so which are the major components we need to change in order to achieve desired output power??? from 200w to 360 w
All of them. Each and every component will likely have to change to meet the output power requirements. At these power levels, each required output is a brand-new design. If this stuff was easy, then anybody could call themselves a design engineer.
 

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Atish260188

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Need to design analog IC based 350w (60v 6A) charger for electric vehicle. So looking for reference design for that
 

ScottWang

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Vin = 36V*6A = 216W
Vout1 = 48V*12A = 576W
Vout2 = 60V*10A = 600W
Rates1 = Vout1(576W) / Vin(216W)*= 2.66
Rates2 = Vout2(600W) / Vin(216W)*= 2.77

If you can get the output power greater than the input power then you can get the power you want.
 

Papabravo

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Vin = 36V*6A = 216W
Vout1 = 48V*12A = 576W
Vout2 = 60V*10A = 600W
Rates1 = Vout1(576W) / Vin(216W)*= 2.66
Rates2 = Vout2(600W) / Vin(216W)*= 2.77

If you can get the output power greater than the input power, then you can get the power you want.
Great! The problem is that the immutable rule of DC-DC conversion schemes is:

The output power will ALWAYS be less than the input power. Sometimes it will be a great deal less.

In short, you have not a snowball's chance in hell of violating this rule. Period, full STOP.
 

ScottWang

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The output power will ALWAYS be less than the input power. Sometimes it will be a great deal less.
Great.
That's what I didn't write down and why I calculated the values of power, but the TS didn't know that.

If my memory is correct then the biggest output power only can get 98% of the input power, but mostly only can get about 92%.

In short, you have not a snowball's chance in hell of violating this rule. Period, full STOP.
I'm waiting for someone to break the rules.
 

Papabravo

Joined Feb 24, 2006
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Great.
That's what I didn't write down and why I calculated the values of power, but the TS didn't know that.

If my memory is correct then the biggest output power only can get 98% of the input power, but mostly only can get about 92%.


I'm waiting for someone to break the rules.
Yau and me both, but I certainly won't be holding my breath for a breakthrough. Besides, I'm too old for that nonsense anyway.
 
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