In the U.S. (at least) automobiles would emit a friendly and subtle beep beep when unlocking the doors with the remote. Now it has switched to an annoying honking of the horn. Not a big deal really just really annoying early in the morning when you are waking and your early riser neighbor is off to work?

What happened? Is it an Americans with Disablities Act thing? Some people couldn't hear the beep?

 

I hear you about the horn, but it is the DuraMax and Power Stroke Diesels that people start up early in the morning and let them clatter for an hour before taking off...

 

Nah the beep beepers wear out. So the new ones tie into the horn. Mine you can't even hear anymore. Just clicking.

 

Most of the "Chrip Chirp" keyless entry systems were aftermarket. Factory keyless entry and alarm systems often use the horn, for the last 8 years anyway. This is for Domestics, not sure about imports, their horns are a "chrip" anyway.

 

The big thing at a rural Walmart is to strut slowly away from your F-350 dually and press the door lock fob for that big honk when you're 50 feet away. I'm waiting for someone to offer an aftermarket package to let the truck play four bars of Dixie or a Merle Haggard number.

 

The big thing at a rural Walmart is to strut slowly away from your F-350 dually and press the door lock fob for that big honk when you're 50 feet away. I'm waiting for someone to offer an aftermarket package to let the truck play four bars of Dixie or a Merle Haggard number.

Bad idea, Someone with a sniffer just may drive off in a brand new F-350 dually. I'd try to deactivate the alarm set lights and beeps. HiTech scammers just love that. For a couple years you could unlock their cars and even start em with the irda port on your cell. They even published each of the car's codes before they caught on.

 

Some walmarts encourage over nite parking for
business reasons,a lot noise.

 

Bad idea, Someone with a sniffer just may drive off in a brand new F-350 dually. I'd try to deactivate the alarm set lights and beeps. HiTech scammers just love that. For a couple years you could unlock their cars and even start em with the irda port on your cell. They even published each of the car's codes before they caught on

My aftermarket remote does not have the lights or horn hooked up just for that reason.

 

Yah I just like the doors to lock then I know its on with out everyone else knowing.

 

Bad idea, Someone with a sniffer just may drive off in a brand new F-350 dually. I'd try to deactivate the alarm set lights and beeps. HiTech scammers just love that. For a couple years you could unlock their cars and even start em with the irda port on your cell. They even published each of the car's codes before they caught on.

Is the rolling code really that easy to break? Isn't the door code different than the key code?

John

 

I keep seeing news stories from tech sites that it is. I have no idea how accurate they are.

 

Snopes disagrees: http://www.snopes.com/autos/techno/lockcode.asp

Maybe Maxpower097 can provide some support for that wild assertion.

John

 

They've posted several links at my works news letter. I keep seeing on several sites. When I get a chance I'll post some of them.

One of the common themes is the car accessing the internet. While I suppose some top of the price chain cars can I don't see that as being a common feature for autos any time soon. It isn't something I would pay for.

The articles I referred are not emails, these are news stories by various research labs. While I use snoops, as with all things internet they can be wrong.

 

Snopes disagrees: http://www.snopes.com/autos/techno/lockcode.asp

Maybe Maxpower097 can provide some support for that wild assertion.

John

Makes sense to me. Car company researchers are no slouches and the encryption technology today is more potent than ever.

 

Is the rolling code really that easy to break? Isn't the door code different than the key code?

John

It was only like 2 years they made cars that could be unlocked by the irda ports. Then by 2007 or 8 they caught on.

http://www.modaco.com/content/smart...172/using-ir-to-open-my-car-door/#entry657629

Theres lots of em. I used to be all into hacking phones and have seen it many times.You would just push out a code like 60043 for a Buick Skylark and that would open the doors. You can search it out because theres just too much info on it. Now its not ass easy but there was a couple year period where they made a major goof on the security. Also I beielve if was 90% factory installed alarms. 3rd party alarms used a different fequency.


If you had the codes you can do the same things with coke machines. If you texed the machine "quarters" it woud spit out quarters, if you texted it water it would dispense a water.

 

It was only like 2 years they made cars that could be unlocked by the irda ports. Then by 2007 or 8 they caught on.

http://www.modaco.com/content/smart...172/using-ir-to-open-my-car-door/#entry657629

Theres lots of em. I used to be all into hacking phones and have seen it many times.You would just push out a code like 60043 for a Buick Skylark and that would open the doors. You can search it out because theres just too much info on it. Now its not ass easy but there was a couple year period where they made a major goof on the security. Also I beielve if was 90% factory installed alarms. 3rd party alarms used a different fequency.


If you had the codes you can do the same things with coke machines. If you texed the machine "quarters" it woud spit out quarters, if you texted it water it would dispense a water.

Bad idea, Someone with a sniffer just may drive off in a brand new F-350 dually. I'd try to deactivate the alarm set lights and beeps. HiTech scammers just love that. For a couple years you could unlock their cars and even start em with the irda port on your cell. They even published each of the car's codes before they caught on.

But you said they could steal a new Ford350 using a sniffer. So what does some old Buick or using IR have to do with that?

John

 

They could steel my old car with a wire hanger, but who would want it?

I think it odd how the media keeps hyping all the features new cars have to have. If it runs and has a decent radio I'm happy. How many folks on this site have On Star for example.

 

Yes with proper equipment anything can be stolen, I refering to not even using a sniffer but just having the codes to all th cars programmed into your phone. Then you stumble onto a certain make and model and you can open it right up. To actually get past a new 3rd party alarm it wouldn't be hard but you would just need all the right equipment. My buddy writes software for one of the major alarm manufacturers and I'll ask him. They get the boards already made and they have to debug them and write the code.

Remember cell phones couldn't be hacked, Sattalites couldn't be hacked, Cable couldnt' be hacked, at one point they claim everything is unhackable. Until that is someone actually tries.

 

Nice explanation, if true, but unrelated to your original comment as quoted above in post#16.

I'm losing sleep worrying about someone steeling my 2010 F350 with duallies. Can you address one issue at a time? We can get back to the IRDA matter later.

John

 

I honestly don't know what your wanting me to explain. More so who said anything about a 2010 F-350 dually?