Same experience here: the lack of restaurants (at least for dine-in service) is what has hit me hardest, mood-wise.

Our governor has decreed that tomorrow, our county goes "green" and all restaurants can re-open, albeit with reduced seating.

Promptly at 0700 tomorrow I'm going to trek down to the Court Diner and for the first time in 3 months, get my usual #1 Egg Special: 2 eggs over easy, hash browns, scrapple, English muffin with butter and jelly, and a cup of coffee. Maybe I'll splurge and get a short stack along with that. Freedom!

Enjoy! My take on all of this is pretty simple. Initially Americans for the most part were OK with staying at home and mask but that was short lived. Wasn't long before Cabin Fever started to outweigh COVID 19 Fever and people reached enough is enough. Americans just don't take to being told to stay home very well. While some are fine with having their freedoms usurped others not so much.

Ron

 

Enjoy! My take on all of this is pretty simple. Initially Americans for the most part were OK with staying at home and mask but that was short lived. Wasn't long before Cabin Fever started to outweigh COVID 19 Fever and people reached enough is enough. Americans just don't take to being told to stay home very well. While some are fine with having their freedoms usurped others not so much.

That's about the way I see it, also: enough is enough.

 

Early reports of restaurant reopenings in this area, S GA/N FL, have not been good. Shortly after reopening, they have had to shut due to one or more employees testing positive requiring shutdown for sterilization (such as that may actually be) and usually not reopening. Locally the numbers have quickly doubled. Florida has been turning them around so the GA coast hoteliers and BnBs have been inundated. Bringing C19 with them apparently. The I-95 corridor is becoming a hotbed! Amusingly, NY and NJ are now turning people away from FL and TX who were among the first to complain about NY and NJ evacuees swarming them. They are starting to get the message locally about masking with the eponential growth of new cases. Too little, too late...

The good news in this is the age of infected is down to ~35 instead of >65 down south. The vast majority of new cases will be mild and each eventually will have some form of short-term immunity so they're one, done and back to work/party. High risk groups more than ever need to stay away from them.
https://www.sun-sentinel.com/corona...0200620-zdbyrk6h25cwxak5h74cchirke-story.html

Although Florida is racking up record daily counts for new cases, the daily number of deaths has declined and the age of the people dying has been going up.

https://www.santacruzsentinel.com/2020/06/16/age-of-covid-19-cases-dropping-in-california/

As California’s economy opens up, coronavirus cases are getting younger and younger.

A new analysis reveals that more than 44% of new diagnoses are in people age 34 or younger, up from 29% a month ago.

There’s a corresponding drop in cases among older people. The proportion of COVID-19 cases among Californians older than 50 has plummeted from 46% to 30.5% in the past month.

Cases among middle-aged Californians – ages 35 to 49 – have plateaued, neither rising nor falling.

 

Everyone is in a hurry to return to normal. I get it. Businesses need to function. People need to work. People want to feel normal again. But there's nothing normal about "New Normal". It's just a word to make bad things seem not so bad. Like everyone else, I'm concerned about getting sick. Especially my wife. She has underlying circumstances that put her at higher risk. So do I. So with much trepidation she and I have been using take-out. Only once did we dine in at a local burger place. Great place too. But we're pulling back. Both retired, so work is not an issue for us. But with numbers rising quickly, I don't think we're ready to go New Normal just yet. In fact, wife and I won't feel safe until there's a vaccine, giving us a measure of a sense of security. Even then, vaccines don't always prevent disease.

We're in a "Catch 22" where you can't go back to work without risk and you can't just stay home without financial risk. I get it. So wife and I spend time every day in the hammock swinging gently while listening to the fountain in the pond. Sometimes punctuated by the roar of F35 fighter jets flying out to go to the firing range over the Bonneville Salt Flats; but the noise is impressive. Especially when they buzz the house.

Anyway, wife and I are probably going to sequester until there's a proven vaccine. After then, probably camping. Risk the bears and moose.

 

Everyone needs to evaluate personal and family risk. My older brother just died (long term illness) in Texas of things unrelated to CV-19 but the evaluation of CV-19 risk will stop me from traveling to Texas because of the risk to elderly relatives at a private ceremony.

 

Everyone needs to evaluate personal and family risk. My older brother just died (long term illness) in Texas of things unrelated to CV-19 but the evaluation of CV-19 risk will stop me from traveling to Texas because of the risk to elderly relatives at a private ceremony.

My condolences. I am very sorry to hear that.

Texas was opening but the governor halted its progression this week due to the increased demand in hospitals. During this crisis the statistics are dependent on the availability of tests and the reliability of the hospital reports. Even the masks have been a point of controversy.

Answering the OP's question: Vacation with Travel.

 

My condolences. I am very sorry to hear that.

Texas was opening but the governor halted its progression this week due to the increased demand in hospitals. During this crisis the statistics are dependent on the availability of tests and the reliability of the hospital reports. Even the masks have been a point of controversy.

Answering the OP's question: Vacation with Travel.

Chuck Norris:

from Chuck Norris.

The mask thing is stupid on freedom principles but practically masks are not a savior once the infection is out of control as the reduction in transmission from cloth masks is too low. Effective masks help to maintain a R0 below 1 once you are there if other containment controls are effect. Face shields are medically equivalent (superior to most loose cloth masks) and are approved for use instead of a mask in Oregon so I use a shield most of the time when out.

These work for me and the family: https://trippnv.com/collections/medical-supplies

 

I have seen no decent article* that shows face masks as implemented by the public even reduce R0, much less keep it at <1. Maybe the current spike in infections at various locales is due to more universal use?

Even their value with proper use in a surgical theater is questionable: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4480558/ (If one reviews post-op infection rates, the most important contributor to lower rates is still surgical skill and duration of surgery. Laminar flow OR's may also help, but are not common.)

Unfortunately, face mask used by the public are often worn below the nose or even below the chin and are constantly being adjusted by the wearer. Whatever respiratory fomites (gunk) captured on them gets on the users hands and is spread to everything they touch. Thus, facilitating spread.

*The article in PNAS (https://www.pnas.org/content/early/2020/06/10/2009637117) is so flawed as to be silly.

 

I have seen no decent article* that shows face masks as implemented by the public even reduce R0, much less keep it at <1. Maybe the current spike in infections at various locales is due to more universal use?

Even their value with proper use in a surgical theater is questionable: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4480558/ (If one reviews post-op infection rates, the most important contributor to lower rates is still surgical skill and duration of surgery. Laminar flow OR's may also help, but are not common.)

Unfortunately, face mask used by the public are often worn below the nose or even below the chin and are constantly being adjusted by the wearer. Whatever respiratory fomites (gunk) captured on them gets on the users hands and is spread to everything they touch. Thus, facilitating spread.

*The article in PNAS (https://www.pnas.org/content/early/2020/06/10/2009637117) is so flawed as to be silly.

I did say effective, not the ones used by most of the public. That's why I wear a face shield.

 

Unfortunately, face masks are attaining much the same aura as "global warming." No one actually denies global warming. The issue is how much we contribute to it. However, if one disagrees with the latter, they are labeled kooks and deniers. That "science" has been settled politically.

Disagreeing with the mandates for face masks is impossible, regardless of how illogical and even counterproductive they may be. There is little science to support what is actually being done, so again, motive become an issue.

 

Everyone needs to evaluate personal and family risk. My older brother just died (long term illness) in Texas of things unrelated to CV-19 but the evaluation of CV-19 risk will stop me from traveling to Texas because of the risk to elderly relatives at a private ceremony.

You had mentioned anytime regarding your brother. Condolences and know they live on in our hearts (actually minds) forever. My thinking is exactly as you mentioned. Hell, even though we are retired enough becomes enough. People should have a right to choose their lifestyle. I got out for a cruise on my bike today and got behind a New Hampshire plated car. Never noticed it before but their state motto on the plates is "Live Free of Die". "Live Free or Die" is part of a toast Gen. John Stark sent to his wartime comrades in 1809. It officially became the state motto in 1945. (Thank You Google) . I thought it was not only pretty cool but made sense.

Ron

 

Everyone needs to evaluate personal and family risk. My older brother just died (long term illness) in Texas of things unrelated to CV-19 but the evaluation of CV-19 risk will stop me from traveling to Texas because of the risk to elderly relatives at a private ceremony.

My medical issues could result in death but, I will try to eliminate some possibilities, my condolences as well. Like Ron I‘m looking forward to full time Retirement and Bike Riding. I’m going to take another Refi on my home equity combine them into one right now I’m approved for %3.25 from %4.75, I’ll take an extra 15k to complete my home improvements but, likely to pack my stuff in a big container then rent the house and move to Denver to take care of my wife’s mother. Rent free too, she has apartments. Maybe Maybe not but it’s looking like that, I can still work for the Home Security Company as well. Just going to rat hole the money from there.

kv

 

My brother-in-law lives in New Hampshire. I loved that motto, but it has been challenged by some who find it offense. Apparently that has been resolved for the time being: https://www.necn.com/news/local/new-hampshire/no-change-to-new-hampshire-license-plate/2050791/

 

Interesting discovery: In preparation to test the smoke alarm (SA) I was going to use the power control switch on my workbench. The power controller has a circuit breaker wired to a duplex outlet. I tested hot to ground and got no voltage. Then tested neutral to ground and got 115VAC. So the plug is installed backwards and wired backwards. So I can't use that to control power to the SA. Found a power strip that is wired correctly. Will have to fix the power controller right away. It's not nice to have hot and neutral reversed. Oh, the small terminal, which should be hot but is neutral, between there and ground there is no voltage. So it's only hot and neutral that's reversed.

Will test the SA in a few minutes. As soon as I finish hooking up a power cord. Will inform y'all of the resulting measurements. And if necessary, a scope reading just to see if it's doing anything strange.

Tony, why do I have a strange feeling about your response in this thread? Your reply would seem a good fit for this thread though. Not that I have never done same.

Ron

 

Tony, why do I have a strange feeling about your response in this thread? Your reply would seem a good fit for this thread though. Not that I have never done same.

Ron

I was thinking the same thing but didn’t say anything about it, not that it matters anyway. But, it does stir a thought in my memory bank about a dishwasher I worked on one day, Customer isn’t home I wanting to be in and out quickly, I grabbed a water valve and a handful of tools, Kitchen Aid dishwasher had issues with them. My pocket meter was broken and my hands were full I thought well I’ll just not lock the handle and I’m ok right? Uh, no. The guy that installed it reverse neutral and hot, guess what I got, I grabbed the terminal with one hand and my eyes rolled into the back of my head, lights out. I woke up on the floor, I couldn’t move for a while, as I lay there I thought what a Scene that would have been for the home owner, dead dishwasher guy on the floor, then you have the papers writing service man killed because he didn’t remove power to dishwasher.

You better bet I re-wired correctly before I left, she left me cookies on a plate, yup I took those too!

kv

 

I have no idea how my response to a different thread ended up here. I'll be removing the erroneous postings.

 

I have no idea how my response to a different thread ended up here. I'll be removing the erroneous postings.

I have managed to do it a few times. I just attribute it to a senior moment.

Ron

 

@Reloadron HEY! WHO YOU CALLING A SENIOR?! I'm NOT a SENIOR - I'm just an Old Fart!

 

I’ll be doing much the same thing as I am now, hunt, fish, hike, ski. Working days are done. I am keeping a low profile though, having been diagnosed with industrial disease (asbestosis).

 

What am I going to do after lockdown ends? Well, it doesn't look like it's ever going to end.