Voltage and Amps rating for Doorbell Transformer

djsfantasi

Joined Apr 11, 2010
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20 Amps!!!

Are you sure? An old 100Watt light bulb only needs 1A! Your car needs less than 10A to start! An electric stove runs on less than 20A!
I see the issue. You are confusing Amps with VoltAmps. They are different measurements and you cannot compare them. 20VA is not 20A! 20VA at 16V is 1.25A which has been explained before.

As member @WBahn always says units, units and units.

Another comment I’d like to mention is that in transformers, amps in can’t be used calculate amps out. The physical construction of the transformer, specifically its wire sizes, limit amps in to amps out. So, you can’t compare a transformer on a 120VAC 15A circuit to its output ampere rating. You have to use the actual transformer rating.
 

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biferi

Joined Apr 14, 2017
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I am not replacing My Doorbell.
I just wanted to know how the Power Rattings work.

So if most Doorbell Transformers are around 30VA back in the 90's do you think a Doorbell Transformer was Rated around 8VA?
 

MaxHeadRoom

Joined Jul 18, 2013
30,772
I am not replacing My Doorbell.
I just wanted to know how the Power Rattings work.

So if most Doorbell Transformers are around 30VA back in the 90's do you think a Doorbell Transformer was Rated around 8VA?
Possible, but I doubt it!
If 12v that would be ~1/2 amp.
Max'
 

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biferi

Joined Apr 14, 2017
531
I am just getting new to all of the Rattings.

So most doorbell Transformer will Step Down the 120 V to 16 V I get this.
And I now know what VA is.

VA is VoltAmps.

So would you Say most Doorbell Transformers are Rated around 20 VA or will they be Lower?
 

MaxHeadRoom

Joined Jul 18, 2013
30,772
What is the root reasons for your questions?
They are tending to border on the Rhetorical!

" a question asked in order to create a dramatic effect or to make a point rather than to get an answer."
 

djsfantasi

Joined Apr 11, 2010
9,237
I am just getting new to all of the Rattings.

So most doorbell Transformer will Step Down the 120 V to 16 V I get this.
And I now know what VA is.

VA is VoltAmps.

So would you Say most Doorbell Transformers are Rated around 20 VA or will they be Lower?
Did you do the research that I suggested?
 

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biferi

Joined Apr 14, 2017
531
Thanks to everybody on this WebSite.

So now I know a Doorbell Transformer in the 2,000 and Up will Output around 24 Volts at 20 VA.

So I was Looking on Google to See what a Doorbell Transformer would Output in the 1980's.
It Says around 16 Volts I thought an Old Doorbell Transformer would Output Less Voltage then that for 1980's?

And what would the VA be for a Doorbell Transformer in the 1980's?
 

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biferi

Joined Apr 14, 2017
531
Ok so I now know a Doorbell Transformer in the Year 2,000 will around 24 Volts and may be Rated 20 V/A.

And this is for USA.

But in the 80's and 90's the Doorbell did not need that Mutch Voltage I thought?
So what Voltage did the Doorbell Transformer Output?
And what v/A was it Rated at?
 

MrSalts

Joined Apr 2, 2020
2,767
An older doorbell usually had three output terminals. One pair will be 8 or 10v, one pair will be 14 or 16v and the last pair will be labeled 20 to 24v. Our house when I was a kid in the 1970s used the 8v terminal for the single bell (ding) back-door ring (quiet) and the front door was louder double bell (ding-dong) connected to the 16v pair. I vividly remember it was rated at 20VA because I “borrowed” it for a few days of experiments. Luckily, my dad just concluded the doorbell was broken when a neighbor knocked - then he forgot about it until he noticed it was working the next time a visitor was at the door.
That story reminds me how often neighbors used doorbells when I was a kid vs today - when that hole next to the door is just for spying on deliver people or monitoring airplane parts falling from the sky.
 

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biferi

Joined Apr 14, 2017
531
If a Doorbell Transformer now is Rated 20 V/A how can a Doorbell Transformer in the 70's be Rated 20 V/A?

I know like You Say the Voltage was 8. Volts to 16 Volts but the V/A I thought would be a lot less?
 

djsfantasi

Joined Apr 11, 2010
9,237
Volts is insufficient to calculate VA. You need to know the amperage the source supplies as well. If you have a 12v transformer, it can provide 12VA, 24VA, 53VA or anything in between. Even in the 70s. It hadn’t changed.

There is no answer to your question. It’s like asking “I had a Ford automobile in 1972. What color was it?”

Even after vast amounts of information has been provided to you, I believe you still don’t get it.

*Sigh*
 

MaxHeadRoom

Joined Jul 18, 2013
30,772
Ok so I now know a Doorbell Transformer in the Year 2,000 will around 24 Volts and may be Rated 20 V/A.

And this is for USA.

But in the 80's and 90's the Doorbell did not need that Mutch Voltage I thought?
So what Voltage did the Doorbell Transformer Output?
And what v/A was it Rated at?
After 58+ posts?
See other posts, #16 for example, bell transformers haven't changed that much.!
Why the obsession?
 

MrSalts

Joined Apr 2, 2020
2,767
After 58+ posts?
See other posts, #16 for example, bell transformers haven't changed that much.!
Why the obsession?
I’m guessing he either:
- needs some solid evidence to buy a modern transformer before his wife approves
- he is afraid some magical electrical phenomenon will damage the Ring Doorbell that he paid for and is rotting in the box. That is, He would not benefit from of the uninstalled doorbell than damage the doorbell and not get any use out of his expense.
 
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