The situation is , I have already bought varistors.Varistor starts to conduct at higher voltage than Vf of the diode, so it won't prevent the breakdown of the diode.
S1 diode has maximum average forward current If 1A.
Just use a diode with high enough If, about 3A should be ok.
No, I need convincing that a Varistor is useful as a snubber.So, should I remove the diodes and only use varistor?
The 60N03 MOSFET is only rated 30V, any diodes with higher reverse voltage than that should survive. An 18V MOV (if you can still get them that low) across the MOSFET should give peace of mind.Here is the circuit:
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It is 100% solenoid/piston pump. If you want to see the inside of the pump, I will upload a photo.How was the pump energized in the original application, are you sure it is a solenoid/piston pump? as most auto petrol pumps are DC motor driven.
Based on the Bosch model.
Max.
Thats OK, I figured it might be, just confirming it.It is 100% solenoid/piston pump. If you want to see the inside of the pump, I will upload a photo.
I have seen circuits of other similar pumps having just 241K or 271K varistor. In fact, I have also tried with 241K and 271K, they both work fine.The 60N03 MOSFET is only rated 30V, any diodes with higher reverse voltage than that should survive. An 18V MOV (if you can still get them that low) across the MOSFET should give peace of mind.
The diodes failing is a bit puzzling, but then it is a lot of inductance to clamp - fast-soft recovery diodes are probably the best choice, Shottky-barrier types would probably be cutting it fine, reverse voltage ratings start at only 20V.
All the MOVs I've seen with numbers on were marked in the familiar format of other component types, 271 would be 27 followed by a single zero.I have seen circuits of other similar pumps having just 241K or 271K varistor. In fact, I have also tried with 241K and 271K, they both work fine.
The actual current drawn by those pumps is 2.5 - 2.6A.
You are right but, the fact is they are working.I'm guessing a 270V MOV wouldn't save a 60N03 from much!
It won't stop them from working - but it won't stop a transient from stopping them working either.You are right but, the fact is they are working.
How do you know?You are right but, the fact is they are working.
I meant to say the pumps are working with those varistors and their respective mosfets are okay.How do you know?
Got it. But how long the mosfet can bear the transient voltage? Should it get bad immediately or it can take some time?It won't stop them from working - but it won't stop a transient from stopping them working either.
They get broken, can be seen on the PCB.When the diodes fail, how do they fail, open, or shorted? How do you know that the diodes have failed?
If the back emf diodes physically crack in two - how do the 30V MOSFETS survive?They get broken, can be seen on the PCB.
It is understood when the diodes get damaged, the mosfet also get damaged and stop functioning.If the back emf diodes physically crack in two - how do the 30V MOSFETS survive?
The diodes are not up to the task of dissipating the heat that is produced by repetitive 7A peak pulses. The original designer of the board knew there was a problem. The designer tried to fix that problem by paralleling two diode. Bad idea, because without equalizing resistors, one diode always takes more current than the other. Eventually, the first diode blows, causing the second to blow shortly thereafter. When it goes, that instantly blows the NFET....This brings us back to the diodes blowing because their repetitive forward current pulses are exceeding the thermal capabilities of the package. The varistor will do absolutely nothing...
Hmm, I am now just adding a 3A diode. Removing the 2 x 1A diodes will be time consuming.So, to quote myself:
The diodes are not up to the task of dissipating the heat that is produced by repetitive 7A peak pulses. The original designer of the board knew there was a problem. The designer tried to fix that problem by paralleling two diode. Bad idea, because without equalizing resistors, one diode always takes more current than the other. Eventually, the first diode blows, causing the second to blow shortly thereafter. When it goes, that instantly blows the NFET.
The correct solution is to replace the two small diodes with one bigger one; one that is up to taking the repetitive 7A pulses...
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