Good Day,

How can I use the internal bandgap reference of a lm317 as an input for a comparator using the least current possible?

Currently I am using the voltage regulator configuration of the lm317 to provide 1.4v at out as seen in the attached image but this requires a load resistor which draws a significant amount of current (~1ma) for stability.

I found one post that said to ground the adjust terminal and take the reference at out but this gives me a voltage of VCC - .7

Thanks

 

How can I use the internal bandgap reference of a lm317

You can't because there doesn't seem to be one.

Currently I am using the voltage regulator configuration of the lm317 to provide 1.4v at out as seen in the attached image but this requires a load resistor which draws a significant amount of current (~1ma) for stability.

LM317 aren't guaranteed to work with less than 10mA for the load plus reference current.

 

You can't because there doesn't seem to be one.
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LM317 aren't guaranteed to work with less than 10mA for the load plus reference current.

I'm pretty sure this is, I have seen an internal diagram that indicated the reference part of the circuit.. I'll try to locate it

I could be mistaken but then how does the chip establish a temperature independent reference?

 

I'm pretty sure this is, I have seen an internal diagram that indicated the reference part of the circuit.. I'll try to locate it

I could be mistaken but then how does the chip establish a temperature independent reference?

Furthermore the lm317 reference is a nominal 1.25 which corresponds to the bandgap of silicon.

 

Please show the link to the post you mention.

 

I found one post that said to ground the adjust terminal and take the reference at out but this gives me a voltage of VCC - .7

You need to load the output with at least 10mA (120Ω).

If you need a low current reference than use one of the low power shunt bandgap references,
For example the MAX6007B will operate down to 1μA.

 

You can use a TL431A for a 2495 mv 1% bandgap reference, needs 1 ma or more and costs about 15¢ each in TO-92 package.

LM385Z-1.2/NOPB is a 2% 1.2V ±20 ppm/° C that draws only 10 uA or less. About 50¢.

A limited selection of voltage references:
http://www.es.co.th/af.asp?keyword=&catc=034036013&mfrc=

 

Please show the link to the post you mention.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou.../ece327/lab3_vreg/lab3_vreg_lm317_example.pdf

Please show the link to the post you mention.

I attached the PDF