That sounds odd, a Windows 10 installation that no longer gets updates is nothing compared to what will happen if your try to "switch to" Linux, all of the software (including device "drivers") you have on Windows must be somehow found and installed on Linux and I don't see how you can do that robustly unless you have very little software installed.

Google will help you find comparable applications in Linux very easily. There are comparable applications for at least 90% of your normal everyday Windows applications. Wine can run most Windows applications. The main issue is applications that use custom drivers. I have some automotive scan tools that have Windows applications I can't use because they use a custom driver, but luckily I don't need the applications to use the tools.

Most drivers are normally installed automatically just like with Windows. I did run into some issues with NVidia when I bought a new computer. You'll definitely want to check video compatibility before making the switch.

I can't see any good reason for even considering Linux, it is a mish mash of disparate, often poorly meshed bits and pieces and requires constant hand holding and care and attention for all but the most trivial use cases.

Have you ever used Linux or just making assumptions? That sounds like one of the most uneducated comments I have ever read towards Linux.

 

Google will help you find comparable applications in Linux very easily. There are comparable applications for at least 90% of your normal everyday Windows applications. Wine can run most Windows applications. The main issue is applications that use custom drivers. I have some automotive scan tools that have Windows applications I can't use because they use a custom driver, but luckily I don't need the applications to use the tools.

Most drivers are normally installed automatically just like with Windows. I did run into some issues with NVidia when I bought a new computer. You'll definitely want to check video compatibility before making the switch.



Have you ever used Linux or just making assumptions? That sounds like one of the most uneducated comments I have ever read towards Linux.

I've worked on Unix in the past, Solaris on Sun workstations and other similar systems in the past. I looked at Linux some years ago and found it to be a mish mash of jumbled up blobs of code. It was never really designed but was an attempt to write a Unix like OS that didn't use existing copyrighted code.

That's my gripe with it, it was never designed in any real sense it just grew and grew as people worked on this or that pet feature. Contrast that with the origin of Windows NT (now just called Windows) which began with a formal statement of goals and was headed by a respected and experienced OS design guru - Dave Cutler.

Design is important - it's important for hardware as many here will understand and it's important in software.

 

I looked at Linux some years ago and found it to be a mish mash of jumbled up blobs of code. It was never really designed but was an attempt to write a Unix like OS that didn't use existing copyrighted code.

It hasn't been anything like that for decades now. I experimented with Mandrake more than 25 years ago and gave up on Linux when an installation attempt corrupted my disk (added a partition that wasn't accessible in a dual boot configuration).

I run Debian on an old Pentium IV computer. And on a Win11 and a couple Win10 computers.

 

That's my gripe with it, it was never designed in any real sense it just grew and grew as people worked on this or that pet feature.

I believe you call that open source.

 

It hasn't been anything like that for decades now. I experimented with Mandrake more than 25 years ago and gave up on Linux when an installation attempt corrupted my disk (added a partition that wasn't accessible in a dual boot configuration).

I run Debian on an old Pentium IV computer. And on a Win11 and a couple Win10 computers.

When I first heard of Linux I was enthusiastic, I had recently studied the book by Tanenbaum on MINIX (I was studying OS design in depth at the time). But as I got more and more of a look at it I was quite disappointed. I studied OS internals from several sources including the designer of VOS Bob Freiburghouse (who once tried to hire Dave Cutler).

Then I studied the earliest versions of Windows NT and studied their public design documentation and device driver architecture and DDK, so when I looked at Linux it was very disappointing as it had little connection with real word workhorse operating systems like VMS, like VOS, like Multics and like Windows NT.

It's a shame, we could really use a solid well designed open source operating system.

 

It's a shame, we could really use a solid well designed open source operating system.

Linux fits that description.

 

I believe you call that open source.

Open source can adhere to strict principles or it can be a free for all, look at Microsoft's open source .Net and C# compilers for example, they are open source but changes have to reach a very high bar to get incorporated.

 

Linux fits that description.

Replicating aspects of Unix which itself was never really designed, isn't what I'd call design.

 

Anyway, I don't want to start religious wars here, so I'll leave it at that!

 

Replicating aspects of Unix which itself was never really designed, isn't what I'd call design.

I disagree, but whatever floats your boat...

 

Open source can adhere to strict principles or it can be a free for all, look at Microsoft's open source .Net and C# compilers for example, they are open source but changes have to reach a very high bar to get incorporated.

Windows itself is not open source. There's a difference.

I tried doing some Windows programming back in XP days and had a few projects of my own that served their purposes. About the same time I started working with Linux to learn a bit about web servers for a web site I was managing. It didn't take long to find out there was a lot more useful information about Linux online compared to Windows. Windows driver programming made me cross eyed where I had a working Linux driver in an afternoon. Qt was 10 times easier to learn than Windows and made more sense to me.

Anyway, I don't want to start religious wars here, so I'll leave it at that!

Sounds like I'll do the same.

 

@Futurist to be fair I was going to give Windows 11 a chance when I bought my latest computer because it was installed and I probably paid at least something for it. The power was turned off and Linux installed when it seemed that the only way to even use the computer was to create some stupid Microsoft account. I later learned there are ways around that, but they seem to be doing everything they can to make it difficult. Maybe things have changed programming wise since XP, but I'll never know

 

I learned ,
bypassing the TPM requirement when upgrading from Win 10 to Win 11 does not guarantee access to all future updates and security patches. Microsoft may restrict updates to devices that meet the official hardware requirements, even if they are technically able to run Windows 11. Bypassing TPM could also lead to compatibility issues and potential malfunctions, and Microsoft may not provide support for such installations.

Yes, that is what MS has been claiming, and it is expected. Seems it is more to improve sales of Intel rather than Windows.
That aside, the internet is full of PRO's from people who have done this, and I'm yet to come across a single CON claim as on date.

The point is that Windows 11 can be run on unapproved hardware. With a word of caution:
https://forums.anandtech.com/thread...s-but-official-pages-remain-the-same.2624130/

 

Google will help you find comparable applications in Linux very easily. There are comparable applications for at least 90% of your normal everyday Windows applications. Wine can run most Windows applications. The main issue is applications that use custom drivers. I have some automotive scan tools that have Windows applications I can't use because they use a custom driver, but luckily I don't need the applications to use the tools.

Most drivers are normally installed automatically just like with Windows. I did run into some issues with NVidia when I bought a new computer. You'll definitely want to check video compatibility before making the switch.



Have you ever used Linux or just making assumptions? That sounds like one of the most uneducated comments I have ever read towards Linux.

I did finely made a decision on how to go about the OPS on my Lenovo M91 Small case. I kept Win 10 on one HDD and installed Linux Ubuntu on another small laptop HDD used DVD power and Sata connection and attached it to the another HDD and it fits perfectly ,then installed Grub boot manager and now i can boot either one . I find 24.04.2 LTS to be very good and i do almost everything i do in Win.