Trying to generate power from a coil and magnet

WBahn

Joined Mar 31, 2012
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You have made a lot of assumptions and I’m not going to get into them all, but for example, just cause I said car battery doesn’t necessarily mean I’m going to use it to power a car.

Anyway, I’m not trying to debate the feasibility of anything, it also involves explaining a lot of extra stuff, I’m merely trying to ballpark determine one aspect of it for now. I will then experiment and I can share some findings from there.
I didn't assume you are trying to power a car. I assumed that you are trying to work at the energy and power levels that a car battery is intended to work at.
 

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Yawningtears

Joined Jul 16, 2020
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That should be fine, just try explain what the parts are and what they have to do.

Also, if the movement is too small you may have to move into piezoelectric generation instead of electro magnetic.

There is also a chance that you may have to face the fact that this may not work at all no matter what you do simply because there just isnt enough energy in the movement you are talking about. Some applications just dont generate enough energy on their own and in those cases we usually see sensors that may generate tiny signals but not large power levels that can say toast white bread or even run a power LED.
Def could be a possibility, I will upload something and I think it will get us all on the same page.
 

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Yawningtears

Joined Jul 16, 2020
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I didn't assume you are trying to power a car. I assumed that you are trying to work at the energy and power levels that a car battery is intended to work at.
I mentioned 12/24v, I didn’t talk about amps really... can car batteries not provide a huge range of amps and also be charged by a decent range of amps as well?
So with your assumption, calling my notion absurd when you don’t even really know the notion is hardly justified I would say.
 

MrChips

Joined Oct 2, 2009
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People here have told you all that you need to know.
1) Learn about Faraday's Law of Induction.
2) Calculate how much energy you can get from a magnet and coil of wire.
3) If you are still not convinced, go ahead and build what the gentleman showed in the video.
4) When you have done it, come back and tell us what you have learned from this experiment.
 

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Yawningtears

Joined Jul 16, 2020
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Ok, hopefully this will clear up some confusion and help me figure this out as I don’t really know this stuff.

Not sure which if any orientation and type would be the best combo or even work to generate electricity.

Please excuse my childish, amateur drawings, but I hope this helps make a lil more sense of what I’m trying to do.

*Note, the inductor would be mounted/fixed if that wasn’t clear.
 
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Yawningtears

Joined Jul 16, 2020
42
People here have told you all that you need to know.
1) Learn about Faraday's Law of Induction.
2) Calculate how much energy you can get from a magnet and coil of wire.
3) If you are still not convinced, go ahead and build what the gentleman showed in the video.
4) When you have done it, come back and tell us what you have learned from this experiment.
Yes, I could go take a course on all this and spend hours upon hours of learning, or I can seek a lil hep from people who already know this stuff saving a tremendous amount of time.

If you don’t want to help no problem, you don’t have to post on this thread, nobody is forcing you to.
 

MrChips

Joined Oct 2, 2009
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We want to help you as much as possible but you ain’t listening.
You said you want to save a tremendous amount of time.
Well I am telling you now. Don’t waste your time.
I have spent 50 years teaching this stuff. Hope you get it now.
 

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Yawningtears

Joined Jul 16, 2020
42
We want to help you as much as possible but you ain’t listening.
You said you want to save a tremendous amount of time.
Well I am telling you now. Don’t waste your time.
I have spent 50 years teaching this stuff. Hope you get it now.
Mr. Chips, did you see my diagram? Can you please comment on which if any option/combo works?

This concept has been demonstrated/proven in the video, I’m not trying to get into a discussion about scale and feasibility, I don’t know how many times I have to say that, so I think you’re not listening actually.

Help me replicate that, and then I can take it from there if you are truly trying to help.
 

Alec_t

Joined Sep 17, 2013
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The arrangements you show in post #50 are unlikely to generate more than a few microwatts of electrical power. They will all produce tiny AC voltages.
As for charging a car battery, let's do some sums:-
Assume a modest 12V 40Ah battery.
Storeable energy = 12V x 40Ah = 480Wh.
Let's be generous and assume you could generate 1milliwatt.
Time to charge battery = 480Wh / 1mW = 480,000 hours.
Now do you consider battery charging would be practical?
 

AlbertHall

Joined Jun 4, 2014
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Here is a picture of the innards of the torch I described earlier. You can get an idea of size. Note that the coil is many turns of very fine wire.
Torch.jpg
 

atferrari

Joined Jan 6, 2004
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I am looking for an inductor and magnet setup, where when the magnet moves relative to the inductor creating DC.

Im sure you might have a ton of questions for me, but as a beginner, I don’t know what to provide.
Ultimately, a couple links of a neodymium magnet that would work well with an specific inductor... not sure if I would need a toroidal or what.

I will likely make several of these and put them in series and in parallel.

I’m and looking for cheap and small, where a multitude of them will end up creating a lot of power.

Not sure if this is possible, but thought this was a good place to start a discussion, I’ve tried to do some research but it’s def a little hard to digest and understand.
I believe that with so many replies you got, the only real option is to stop opposing you arguments / reasons and doing a basic test with a coil of, say, 100 turns and a magnet going inside our repeatedly or just passing in front (of the coil) back and forth in regular fashion. With a multimeter at the coil's terminal try to visualize the changes in voltage you could see. Then, try to do the same with the DMM connected to measure current.
Add a resistor of 1K or even a LED, make notes and try to get some conclusions. Then come back with that.

If you keep talking, I could tell you nice fairy tales or provide links to those illuminatti posting pure crap in Youtube.

For your reference, the "discovery" of an incredible source of free energy by harvesting like the one created by people walking in the streets, stepping on piezoelectric devices, is recurrent. You see that in newspapers, TV and of course YT showing up from time to time. Be realistic.
 

shortbus

Joined Sep 30, 2009
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For your reference, the "discovery" of an incredible source of free energy by harvesting like the one created by people walking in the streets, stepping on piezoelectric devices, is recurrent. You see that in newspapers, TV and of course YT showing up from time to time. Be realistic.
I suppose next you will say there is no Santa Claus or Tooth Fairy.
 
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