Yes, agree , all within the confines of the law.
Wishing for a better life doesn't mean it's ok to Ignore long standing, international laws here or anywhere else just because of fears, hopes, and aspirations for a better life.
Running away from deadly danger is a natural human instinct for survival but the current situation is a created wave of mass illegal immigration driven and operated by the types of goons shown in that picture. Human trafficking and abuse of the worse kind , driven by lies of a great new life. People of little means being in debt to criminals that threaten family left behind if you don't work as slaves once in the USA.

We desperately need to stop this modern day slavery.

 

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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/02/04/the-happiest-time-of-day-according-to-science/
The happiest time of day, according to science

“Generally, things do seem better in the morning,” the scientists write in their paper.

 

Still blocking ADA access to sidewalks and buildings.

This was settled years ago.

 

Keep it weird Portland.

 

A matter of basic manners:

Man fined $200 for using speakerphone in French train station


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Nobody should be forced to listen to your phone conversation; it will be annoyingly distracting and might be intrusive or embarrassing. The person at the other end might object if they realise their conversation is audible to a train carriage full of unwilling eavesdroppers

 

I understand why people like Boxing. It's a very demanding sport, both physically and mentally. But I see a serious problem when one considers that the purpose of the sport is to try and knock out the other guy. And a brain concussion is, quite literally, the medical definition of a knock out.
This is a very sad event indeed.

Irish boxer John Cooney dies aged 28 after sustaining brain injury in title fight

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He was taken to Belfast’s Royal Victoria Hospital for treatment and subsequently underwent surgery to relieve pressure on his brain from an intracranial haemorrhage, Dunlop said earlier this week.

 

I understand why people like Boxing. It's a very demanding sport, both physically and mentally. But I see a serious problem when one considers that the purpose of the sport is to try and knock out the other guy. And a brain concussion is, quite literally, the medical definition of a knock out.
This is a very sad event indeed.

Irish boxer John Cooney dies aged 28 after sustaining brain injury in title fight
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People die skiing, snowboarding, wingsuit jumping, solo mountaineering, the list goes on and on.

Sad, yes. A serious problem because another human caused it in a sport, IMO no.

 

Yeah, of course I get what you're referring to. God knows, even golf has had its share of fatal incidents.

But none of those sports have the deliberate goal of physically hurting your opponent. Nor are they focused on doing everything possible to cause a brain injury. That's what I find unsettling about boxing.

 

I would be happy to see blows to the head banned. Brain aneurysms are no joke.

 

Yeah, of course I get what you're referring to. God knows, even golf has had its share of fatal incidents.

But none of those sports have the deliberate goal of physically hurting your opponent. Nor are they focused on doing everything possible to cause a brain injury. That's what I find unsettling about boxing.

Contact sports are all about physically hurting your opponents. Boxing just strips away the layers of ritual combat to the core. These people are professionals that know the dangers of their sports.

I believe in human free will, that free will also gives you the right to contract (legal) with others humans in activities that risk mind and body for your employment.

Don't weakly say you're unsettled, say you want to ban it because you don't like it and want to exert your will over others current rights.

 

I would be happy to see blows to the head banned. Brain aneurysms are no joke.

It will just move unlimited fights underground and be more dangerous to the contestants without legal contract requirements of responsibility for on the job injury.

 

Boxing just strips away the layers of ritual combat to the core.

Yeah, but I miss the chariots.

And the lions.

 

I'm happy they banned the lions but kept chariots.

 

Contact sports are all about physically hurting your opponents. Boxing just strips away the layers of ritual combat to the core. These people are professionals that know the dangers of their sports.

I believe in human free will, that free will also gives you the right to contract (legal) with others humans in activities that risk mind and body for your employment.

Don't weakly say you're unsettled, say you want to ban it because you don't like it and want to exert your will over others current rights.

I am unsettled ... and no, I do not want to exert my will over anyone. I never meant to imply that the sport should be banned or outlawed. What I'm saying is that (in my opinion) there is something morally wrong with a sport whose primary purpose is to cause a brain injury and people should be aware of that. People get hurt in american football and rugby and even soccer, but their purpose is to move a ball into a scoring zone, not disrupting their opponent's nervous system. But, as you've said, if two consenting adults are willing to take the risk, then it's their business and they're on their own.

 

Yeah, but I miss the chariots.

And the lions.

And the rhinos ... don't forget the rhinos!

 

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I am unsettled ... and no, I do not want to exert my will over anyone. I never meant to imply that the sport should be banned or outlawed. What I'm saying is that (in my opinion) there is something morally wrong with a sport whose primary purpose is to cause a brain injury and people should be aware of that. People get hurt in american football and rugby and even soccer, but their purpose is to move a ball into a scoring zone, not disrupting their opponent's nervous system. But, as you've said, if two consenting adults are willing to take the risk, then it's their business and they're on their own.

I agree with most of that but:

Morally wrong.
An act that goes against the principles of natural justice. Goes against what is considered fair and just.

Boxing IMO is fair and just if both follow the rules of the sport.
Boxers, do not breach any rules when they try to cause injury.

What's morally wrong is a 'fixed' fight or a fight where one side cheats, like this.

 

Morally wrong.
An act that goes against the principles of natural justice. Goes against what is considered fair and just.

Yeap ... talk about morality is an intellectual minefield. That's because most social morals are relative, and a very few are absolute. At least from an anthropological point of view.

A duel to the death is morally wrong nowadays. But that hasn't always been the case. Poor unfortunate Hamilton comes to mind.

 

As a former martial artist I can say I was fascinated by MMA fights, it was interesting to note technique differences amongst the various styles. Martial artists are weird anyhow