China Has Plans for the World’s Largest Particle Collider

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/china-has-plans-for-the-worlds-largest-particle-collider/

 

China Has Plans for the World’s Largest Particle Collider

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/china-has-plans-for-the-worlds-largest-particle-collider/

And in only 3 years...damn those Chinese are awesome with their hypersonic generators and stuff.

 

And in only 3 years...damn those Chinese are awesome with their hypersonic generators and stuff.

China is the nearest we have (in the West) to a truly alien civilization, there was very little contact with China for so long, and they never developed technologically as the West did (but they are rapidly catching up). The problem as to why they developed differently is known as the Needham Question.

In October 1988, Needham wrote: “Francis Bacon had selected four inventions, paper and printing, gunpowder, and the magnetic compass, which had done more than (anything else), he thought, to transform completely the modern world and mark it off from the antiquity of the Middle Ages. He regarded the origins of these inventions as ‘obscure and inglorious’ and he died without ever knowing that all of them were Chinese. We have done our best to put this record straight”

 

China ...... they never developed technologically as the West did

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Yes, many things did originate in China, but their civilization never underwent an enlightenment and scientific revolution, their inventions were opportunistic more than systematically developed.

 

Here's a BBC round table academic discussion (audio) about the Needham Question, most interesting.

The Needham Question

 

Yes, many things did originate in China, but their civilization never underwent an enlightenment and scientific revolution, their inventions were opportunistic more than systematically developed.

Even if that were the case (which I find debatable), they're definitely going through a technological revolution right now anyway.

 

Even if that were the case (which I find debatable), they're definitely going through a technological revolution right now anyway.

Yes. They've invented lots of new ways to steal tech from the West.

 

Yes. They've invented lots of new ways to steal tech from the West.

Just like Japan did back in the day ... and many other nations during the Industrial Revolution. History has shown what happens to civilizations when they spurn other culture's technological advancements simply out of spite. The islamic nations rejected the printing press for hundreds of years because it was an infidel's contraption, and the soviets scorned genetic research because it was a bourgeoises' invention for the purpose of oppressing the proletariat ... now they know better.

 

 

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New Yorkers make me lol.

Almost as much as Portlanders.

 

Easily amused are we?

 

Easily amused are we?

These days, everything is funny. Good times.

 

Easily amused are we?

You can laugh or cry. No tears for their self-made hells.

 

They have a huge squatters problem in the Atlanta area as well. So bad some guy started a squatter removal business. Apparently, he moves in with them and is so obnoxious to them they move out.

 

Personally I think science is about understanding, not knowing (unless were speaking of knowing the answers to exam questions).

I agree. Engineering is about knowing. I, as an engineer, know the limits, specifications, and rules, etc. for designing, building, manufacturing, etc. a specific widget. I apply this KNOWLEDGE to the design so that the end result works.

It's rare that I apply science to what I do. I don't normally start product development with a hypothesis, prove or disprove it and then move on to a finished product. That's not engineering. It's science.

People often conflate the two. There was a lot of science proving that we could make it to the moon. There was a lot of engineering building the rocket that did it.

 

I agree. Engineering is about knowing. I, as an engineer, know the limits, specifications, and rules, etc. for designing, building, manufacturing, etc. a specific widget. I apply this KNOWLEDGE to the design so that the end result works.

It's rare that I apply science to what I do. I don't normally start product development with a hypothesis, prove or disprove it and then move on to a finished product. That's not engineering. It's science.

People often conflate the two. There was a lot of science proving that we could make it to the moon. There was a lot of engineering building the rocket that did it.

This is silly.

Engineering is, literally, applied science.

Not only am I an engineer, but I am an inventor as well. I use science everyday as a matter of course in my professional life to create and build things that have never been created, or built, before.

 

You can laugh or cry. No tears for their self-made hells.

we have had a rash of those in Dallas. Our legislature is starting to take notice.

 

History has shown what happens to civilizations when they spurn other culture's technological advancements

Or when they post propaganda that their technology is superior albeit faked and technologically flawed.

 

Or when they post propaganda that their technology is superior albeit faked and technologically flawed.

Or simply faked for the purpose of deception