The war on cops, another chapter

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#12

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if you strictly stick to the present you will likely be killed in the rare event of a deadly force event.
The score for 2016 is Cops, 1,090
Having some difficulty finding the number of police killed by attackers because the "death by gunfire" category includes self inflicted, friendly fire, and accidental shootings.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...un/01/the-counted-police-killings-us-database

Looks like, "more than 60" according to this site:
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/12/2...ot-this-year-20-in-ambushes-report-finds.html
 

cmartinez

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You must be talking about Mexico because you haven't seen post #3380 in the Voting Thread.
http://forum.allaboutcircuits.com/t...thout-voting-for-someone-else.127958/page-169
Mexico is just as bad... with the added problem of chronic, in-your-face endless cycle of corruption. I'm thankful that we can even complain and talk about it... we can freely call our president in public the idiotic a-orifice type of guy that he really is without fearing repercussions... things down here were very different in the early 70's... I know, I was there.
 

nsaspook

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The score for 2016 is Cops, 1,090
Having some difficulty finding the number of police killed by attackers because the "death by gunfire" category includes self inflicted, friendly fire, and accidental shootings.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...un/01/the-counted-police-killings-us-database

Looks like, "more than 60" according to this site:
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/12/2...ot-this-year-20-in-ambushes-report-finds.html
I don't know the exact number but the numbers are lower because of how they are trained to use their human intelligence to predict future actions from possible aggressors. When they are wrong they must be held responsible but the reality is that today that a small segment of the criminal population exists without feeling of empathy or of mercy if they had the drop on a cop or even a helpless citizen for a split second.
 

#12

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That's because we are citizens in the US not subjects under rule. Vive la différence.
I think nsaspook just answered that for you in the War on Police Misconduct Thread, post #3381.
"the NSA was in fact collecting in bulk domestic call records, along with various internet communications."
And after Snowden let that cat out of the bag, if the U.S. government said they had quit doing it, nobody would believe them.

Then there are recent Supreme Court rulings which gut The Constitution such as: "Although the Fourth Amendment is in the Bill of Rights, the Supreme Court has held it is not a constitutional right nor a personal right."
http://the9thcircuitwatch.com/wp/?cat=23

"The U.S. Supreme Court issued a landmark decision that serves to allow judges to void the Constitution in their courtrooms."
http://www.prnewswire.com/news-rele...-decision-constitution-is-void-114157799.html

And the 9th Circuit Court gutting the second amendment: "federal appeals court in California ruled Thursday that there is no constitutional right to carry a concealed handgun"
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...als-says-no-right-concealed-gun-carry-n589041

Or this idea which guts all of The Constitution:
66 Percent of Americans Now Live in a Constitution-Free Zone
https://www.thenation.com/article/66-percent-americans-now-live-constitution-free-zone/
https://www.aclu.org/know-your-rights-governments-100-mile-border-zone-map

And the other end of the spectrum?
A $2,500 ticket was given to a boy, age 3, for urinating in his own front yard in Piedmont, Oklahoma.
http://www.copblock.org/23556/more-proof-were-all-slaves-vice-free-men/

All the way from, "Constitution Free America" to, "Laws Against Three Year Olds Urinating", and you say we are not "subjects under rule"?

I think you need to consider an adjustment to your belief system.

Edit: Changed Assange to Snowden. Sorry, got them confused for a minute...
 
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#12

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the reality is that today that a small segment of the criminal population exists without feeling of empathy or of mercy if they had the drop on a cop
Don't worry. A large segment of our Police population has the same amount of mercy as small segment of criminals. They just describe it in different words, like:
trained to use their human intelligence to predict future actions from possible aggressors.
Cop Beats 4 Year Old Boy, Puts Him in Critical Condition
http://thefreethoughtproject.com/cop-beats-4-year-boy-puts-critical-condition/

Cop Who Admitted to Felony Child Abuse on a 4-Year-Old, Gets Promoted Weeks Later
http://thefreethoughtproject.com/mi...ld-abuse-year-child-receives-promotion-weeks/
Only Cop Charged in Raid that Maimed a Baby is Acquitted – Police Still Blaming Toddler
http://thefreethoughtproject.com/co...baby-acquitted-police-blaming-toddler-family/
Ohio Police Officer Attempts To Shoot A Dog, Shoots a 4-Year-Old Girl Instead
http://thefreethoughtproject.com/ohio-police-officer-shoots-year-girl-failed-attempt-shoot-dog/
Cop Trying to Kill the Family Dog, Kills Woman Instead
http://thefreethoughtproject.com/co...s-woman-instead-front-husband-4-year-old-son/
Cop Robs a Terminally Ill 3 Year old
http://thefreethoughtproject.com/low-cop-robs-terminally-ill-3-year-make-a-wish-foundation-money/
73 Year Old Grandmother Mauled and Killed by Police K9
http://thefreethoughtproject.com/73-year-grandmother-mauled-killed-police-k9/


This list of "trained use of human intelligence" goes on and on, and you know it.
 
That's because we are citizens in the US not subjects under rule. Vive la différence.
And I would say it owes, in large part, to legislators' confusion (and/or fear of their constituent's confusion) of 'rule of law' with 'soft on crime':rolleyes: -- Again - I have no issue with bona fide self defense, etc... -- But 'private police at large' are quite another matter!:rolleyes:

Very best regards
HP:)
 
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nsaspook

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Don't worry. A large segment of our Police population has the same amount of mercy as small segment of criminals. They just describe it in different words, like:


Cop Beats 4 Year Old Boy, Puts Him in Critical Condition
http://thefreethoughtproject.com/cop-beats-4-year-boy-puts-critical-condition/

Cop Who Admitted to Felony Child Abuse on a 4-Year-Old, Gets Promoted Weeks Later
http://thefreethoughtproject.com/mi...ld-abuse-year-child-receives-promotion-weeks/

Only Cop Charged in Raid that Maimed a Baby is Acquitted – Police Still Blaming Toddler
http://thefreethoughtproject.com/co...baby-acquitted-police-blaming-toddler-family/

Ohio Police Officer Attempts To Shoot A Dog, Shoots a 4-Year-Old Girl Instead
http://thefreethoughtproject.com/ohio-police-officer-shoots-year-girl-failed-attempt-shoot-dog/

Cop Trying to Kill the Family Dog, Kills Woman Instead
http://thefreethoughtproject.com/co...s-woman-instead-front-husband-4-year-old-son/

Cop Robs a Terminally Ill 3 Year old
http://thefreethoughtproject.com/low-cop-robs-terminally-ill-3-year-make-a-wish-foundation-money/

73 Year Old Grandmother Mauled and Killed by Police K9
http://thefreethoughtproject.com/73-year-grandmother-mauled-killed-police-k9/


This list of "trained use of human intelligence" goes on and on, and you know it.
Yes, we are training some criminals with a badge to be better criminals because the current selection process for police is not perfect. A sad state of affairs in a imperfect world.
 

nsaspook

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The only thing that matters is 'green' money not 'white' men. If you don't think that money and payoffs are at the heart of this dispute then you don't know anything about tribal government.
http://thefreethoughtproject.com/standing-rock-council-evict-nodapl-camp-funds/
In an astonishingly abrupt move, the Standing Rock Sioux Tribe Council went rogue and voted to shut down the Camp of the Sacred Stones — the original encampment set up by Indigenous youth — and to apply all funds donated in support of the camps to pay off the tribe’s debts.

As LaDonna Brave Bull Allard — head of what has become known as Sacred Stone and owner of the property on which it sits — said in a statement at the council meeting today in sharp protest of the motions,

“This is supposed to be the time of prayer and gathering of the people to stand for the water as we fight for our water and against this billion dollar company Dakota Access Pipeline. This is the time for our nation to heal together and develop relationships with our nations and allies.
 
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shortbus

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That's very truthful. You must live at least partially in an imaginary short term future world to stay ahead of events because if you strictly stick to the present you will likely be killed in the rare event of a deadly force action.
So your saying, Minority Report is not just a movie? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minority_Report_(film)

This whole, heightened awareness, hallucination thing, some of the blame has to be placed on the right wing media, FNC, Infowars, Rush Limbaugh, et al. Being subjugated to day in and day out, "there out to get us", "only you can save us" etc, is not healthy for anyone's mental state.
 

shortbus

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Yes. +100?
One doesn't just by accident, coincidentally, overtake someone and engage in a physical altercation after the completely coincidental, non-target, who just happened to be walking in the same direction, spooks and starts running, unless that was the intent in the first place.
And Zimmerman was driving through the neighborhood looking(hunting?) for anyone fitting his ideas of a "wrong doer". And probably one that he thought he could "whip". And he chose wrong and had to shoot.... this is just my opinion of the happenings, know proof, but similar to events in my life experience.
 

nsaspook

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And Zimmerman was driving through the neighborhood looking(hunting?) for anyone fitting his ideas of a "wrong doer". And probably one that he thought he could "whip". And he chose wrong and had to shoot.... this is just my opinion of the happenings, know proof, but similar to events in my life experience.
Yeah, he was a wantabe cop without a cape whose actions after the trial prove what a fool he is.
 

nsaspook

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And BLM should have never been formed, just let things go on, business as usual. A mini- genocide of a race.
BLM could have been a force for police reform but they let the leftist anti-cop radicals get in charge. Once they were exposed the organization became toxic for people who wanted positive police reform.

http://www.theblaze.com/news/2016/1...t-wants-in-chicago-and-crime-is-skyrocketing/

Who is killing who?
So far this year, 4,334 people have been shot in Chicago: one person every two hours. Almost all the victims have been black. The police have shot 25 people, virtually all armed or otherwise dangerous — less than .6 percent of the total.
 

nsaspook

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#whatsthebeef?

http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2017/01/06/wendys-employees-accused-of-refusing-to-take-fwpd-officers-order/
FORT WORTH (1080 KRLD) – The Fort Worth Police Department sent a tweet to the verified account for Wendy’s restaurants Thursday night to report that employees at a location refused to take his order.

The Fort Worth police officer says he went into the Wendy’s on I-20 near Trail Lake Drive, made eye contact with employees, and that’s when he says the employees walked to the back of the kitchen and refused to take his order.
 

shortbus

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Quote nsaspook, "Who is killing who?
So far this year, 4,334 people have been shot in Chicago: one person every two hours. Almost all the victims have been black. The police have shot 25 people, virtually all armed or otherwise dangerous — less than .6 percent of the total."

You and the others taking your side in this are missing the big picture I think. While BonB killing is appalling, it's doubly so when the cops who are paid to protect and serve instead do it, many times when other means of stopping things could be used.

And the killing of a cop is also appalling, we don't know how or what the cop did to the ones that do it. I'd be willing to bet that with full disclosure the main part the cops were known bad. And no one did anything to stop them on the force, but that would never be disclosed to the public. Thin blue line and all.
 
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