The war on cops, another chapter

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#12

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It's always up to the population itself, and not to its government, to take steps in defending itself against abuse.
There is a trend in the U.S. to NOT call the police, especially in cases of mental illness. (People in a mental crisis are 4X more likely than average people to be killed by the police.) My experience is that when you do call the police, they assume the person who called is the problem. Only if you're smart (and lucky) you might direct them to the real problem. I quit calling the police when one of them responded to my door and asked me to go back in the house and come out with a gun in my hand. I told him I wasn't that stupid, and his partner emerged from behind my truck aiming a pistol at me. That finally convinced me to quit asking the police to, "serve and protect" me (somewhere around 1985).

A new method called Cell411 calls local residents to the scene, not the police. The police have learned about this and sometimes place Cell411 calls so they can harass any citizens who do respond. So, the people devise ways to avoid the police, but the Surveillance State tries to defeat that.

Edit: adding link
http://www.copblock.org/167535/police-website-recommends-cops-download-use-cell-411/

and the police take on how to use it:
Step 1: Download Cell 411 from your Google Play or iTunes store.

Step 2: Go to a low traffic area of your beat.

Step 3: Set Cell 411 to Patrol Mode and then initiate a fake police event, such as a traffic stop or arrest.

Step 4: Get your ticket-book ready, and conduct a traffic emphasis patrol in the area.

http://bluelivesmatter.blue/technology-offers-new-ways-troll-copblockers/
 
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JoeJester

Joined Apr 26, 2005
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I would like to suggest a law against injuring or killing people because you can't legislate everything in the world.
I'm sure the politico's will relegate it to a subcommittee who couldn't decide on whether or not it was good. Then they would discover it's already on the books. Great, we can blame someone else for not ENFORCING it.
 

JoeJester

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At the risk of restarting a debate.... Lucky the guy didn't have a gun.
Maybe the background check worked ... however, whatever caused him not to get a gun might have been useful information to the locals. Then again, the flags raised were unimportant since they "prevented" someone from killing someone with a gun.
 

nsaspook

Joined Aug 27, 2009
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At the risk of restarting a debate.... Lucky the guy didn't have a gun.:)
I don't think it was luck. It seems to me that bulk killing was not his mad objective.Looks more like a suicide by cop while creating a mainly made-up Islamic jihad justification for his suicide. He seemed to have mental issues that keyed into terror with a finale of smashing and cutting them instead of himself.
 

dannyf

Joined Sep 13, 2015
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well, apparently blm has asked to investigate the osu cops heroism, as it is a police killing of a black man.

the weird is getting weirder.
 

nsaspook

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http://www.charlotteobserver.com/ne...lotte-shooting-protests/article117921218.html
No charges will be brought against Charlotte-Mecklenburg Police officer Brentley Vinson in the September shooting death of a man in University City, the man’s attorney said Wednesday.

Keith Lamont Scott, 43, was shot Sept. 20 in a confrontation with officers outside his apartment. Video made at the scene records police calling on him to drop his gun, then four shots are heard.


Keith Lamont Scott . .
A gun, an ankle holster and marijuana were found at the scene.
 

#12

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I've spent a week inquiring of friends, family, acquaintances, and complete strangers like store clerks. Every one that remembers the day Kennedy was shot never bought the "lone gunman" explanation, hook line and sinker. Congratulations, nsaspook, you are a member of a rather exclusive club. Is it called, "Those who wouldn't doubt the Warren Commission, even if the CIA put it in writing"?

No answer required. For every large population, there are people that range everywhere from Fox Mulder to Krusty the Clown. Nobody could convince Scully and Mulder, and nobody can convince the other end of the spectrum. I just thought you would respond to a CIA document, but apparently I don't know enough about where your beliefs came from.
 

nsaspook

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I've spent a week inquiring of friends, family, acquaintances, and complete strangers like store clerks. Every one that remembers the day Kennedy was shot never bought the "lone gunman" explanation, hook line and sinker. Congratulations, nsaspook, you are a member of a rather exclusive club. Is it called, "Those who wouldn't doubt the Warren Commission, even if the CIA put it in writing"?

No answer required. For every large population, there are people that range everywhere from Fox Mulder to Krusty the Clown. Nobody could convince Scully and Mulder, and nobody can convince the other end of the spectrum. I just thought you would respond to a CIA document, but apparently I don't know enough about where your beliefs came from.
I remember, was in Dallas Texas, when it happened (my little brother was born in the same Parkland hospital on Nov 24 1963), cried when I saw my parents and teachers wailing about the murder and am very familiar with the area & building where JFK was shot from.

Thanks for not including me in the loony JFK conspiracy club.
 

Sinus23

Joined Sep 7, 2013
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the left's fascination with banning things they don't want fascinates me. they ban guns, they ban offensive languages, they ban un-approved thoughts, ...

the only things they haven't banned are crimes and criminals (isn't that quite interesting? are the lefties secretly in love with crimes and criminals?): it would have been nice if they had declared Chicago a crime-free city, or OSU a criminal-free campus.

Heck, if you had banned people all together, we would all live in peace forever.
Strange, Joey said that I should be chastised for playing music where it "doesn't" belong. Which included offensive languages, guns and whatnot.;)

I could swear that he is pretty far right on the spectrum...:rolleyes:
 

JoeJester

Joined Apr 26, 2005
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well, apparently blm has asked to investigate the osu cops heroism, as it is a police killing of a black man.

the weird is getting weirder.
There was NO EVIDENCE the person intended to harm any more people. The WHITE COP shot the BLACK MAN too quickly.

Yeah....right.

BLM's assholes must be jealous because of all the shit coming out of their mouths.
 

Sinus23

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I remember, was in Dallas Texas, when it happened (my little brother was born in the same Parkland hospital on Nov 24 1963), cried when I saw my parents and teachers wailing about the murder and am very familiar with the area & building where JFK was shot from.

Thanks for not including me in the loony JFK conspiracy club.
I thought we were doing Frogger. Makes more sense than any conspiracy theorist or the creepy guy which hates the government.
 

nsaspook

Joined Aug 27, 2009
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At least you're getting better. You don't believe everything the government says (this week).
You don't brainwash people into believing things that are the opposite of hard reality, you spin events into a narrative that strokes their biases and then reinforce that to a seemly plausible sequence of events for your purpose. I'm not biased to believe government and I'm not biased to believe every story from Copwatch. I try to use my BS detector on every story. The JFK (or 9/11 in modern times) conspiracy type stories have been a national kook past-time for 50+ years and the serious mention of one adds about 50 points to the crackpot tally part of my BS detector.
 

JoeJester

Joined Apr 26, 2005
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Conspiracies will survive. Man's credulity will always be tested. The totality of the media in this country alone causes the BS detector to always remain above mid-scale.

Somethings need to be taking with a very large NaCl boulder.
 

shortbus

Joined Sep 30, 2009
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You don't brainwash people into believing things that are the opposite of hard reality, you spin events into a narrative that strokes their biases and then reinforce that to a seemly plausible sequence of events for your purpose.
Sounds kind of like the Trump campaign for president.
 
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