Don't try to mix the two, it makes you look totally uninformed about reality.

Your opinion. They told him to drop his gun, and he had to pull it from his waistband. They rolled up on him and drew their guns. Reality some times has two sides, but only one side is heard.

 

"Castile, 32, told the officer he was legally carrying a gun and and paramedics found a loaded pistol in his shorts."
http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/16/us/officer-charged-philando-castile-killing/index.html

Screaming, "drop the gun" at a person who doesn't have one in his hand is as invalid as screaming, "quit resisting" at an unconscious person. These scenarios are contrived by officers who already know they are in the wrong and planning on using their own behavior as a defense strategy if a lack of behavior by the victim is discovered.

(If this post seems like a non-sequitur, it's because I haven't been checking this Thread lately.)

 

Your opinion. They told him to drop his gun, and he had to pull it from his waistband. They rolled up on him and drew their guns. Reality some times has two sides, but only one side is heard.

The opinion of the County prosecutor/DOJ is what counts and they agree with me, not you.

 

"Castile, 32, told the officer he was legally carrying a gun and and paramedics found a loaded pistol in his shorts."
http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/16/us/officer-charged-philando-castile-killing/index.html

Screaming, "drop the gun" at a person who doesn't have one in his hand is as invalid as screaming, "quit resisting" at an unconscious person. These scenarios are contrived by officers who already know they are in the wrong and planning on using their own behavior as a defense strategy if a lack of behavior by the victim is discovered.

(If this post seems like a non-sequitur, it's because I haven't been checking this Thread lately.)

Welcome back. We are both in agreement in this case.

 

From your Link, "Yanez warned Castile not to reach for the gun. He shot Castile seven times within a minute of the traffic stop."

That was a bad shoot, but killing the boy, Tamir Rice, in Cleveland wasn't? They didn't even wait a few seconds.

In this case they should have charged the cop driving with "partner endangerment" for putting his partner 10 feet away from what he thought was a guy with a gun.
Cowboy.

 

In this case they should have charged the cop driving with "partner endangerment" for putting his partner 10 feet away from what he thought was a guy with a gun.
Cowboy.

I can't make fun of the shooting of a 12-year-old child.

 

I can't make fun of the shooting of a 12-year-old child.

Ronv does have a point. If that child was so obviously, foaming at the mouth homicidal that he had to be killed with no warning and no hesitation, the cops should finish the job by going full blown, wet-my-pants, terrified, on this. There was a recent case where a cop was talking to a suicidal man, successfully. Two other cops burst into the back yard and gunned him down where he sat, then charged the first cop with endangering the second and third cops by not killing the citizen just in case some other cops might arrive.

 

Ronv does have a point.

Then the question is why did that happen (the dispatcher failed to pass vital information on the call and made it a priority) and at no point will you find anything funny about a kid dying with his guts spilling out.

He also defended the officers’ tactics in the moments before the shooting, saying they had positioned their cruiser to prevent Tamir from running into the recreation center, where they thought he might endanger people. They tried to stop farther away, but the car skidded, Mr. Hilow said.
...
Because of multiple layers in Cleveland’s 911 system, crucial information from the initial call about “a guy in here with a pistol” was never relayed to the responding police officers, including the caller’s caveats that the gun was “probably fake” and that the wielder was “probably a juvenile.”

What the officers, Frank Garmback and his rookie partner, Tim Loehmann, did hear from a dispatcher was, “We have a Code 1,” the department’s highest level of urgency.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/23/u...y-errors-by-police-then-a-fatal-one.html?_r=0

 

You seem to be stuck on the word, "funny" like you were stuck on, "drop gun".
I'm not taking the bait this time, either.

 

You seem to be stuck on the word, "funny" like you were stuck on, "drop gun".
I'm not taking the bait this time, either.

I'm not baiting anyone. I'll freely admit mentally seeing dead children is a flashback from a past experience. I've seen a lot but that's still a trigger point for me.

Drop gun was a flat out lie that needed to be debunked.

 

I can't make fun of the shooting of a 12-year-old child.

It's not making fun of anything. I think the cop driving put his partner in an impossible situation. I might not think that if he had used the street.
I stand by - Cowboy.

 

It's not making fun of anything. I think the cop driving put his partner in an impossible situation. I might not think that if he had used the street.
I stand by - Cowboy.

"He also defended the officers’ tactics in the moments before the shooting, saying they had positioned their cruiser to prevent Tamir from running into the recreation center, where they thought he might endanger people. They tried to stop farther away, but the car skidded, Mr. Hilow said."

Seems like a very logical move considering the imprecise information they had from dispatch.

My original point was that in the comparison of this case to the Philando Castile shooting case about the only things in common are two dead people both shot by a cop.

 

This now in the news....... http://abc7.com/news/video-shows-arizona-cop-punch-woman/1613352/

kv

 

This now in the news....... http://abc7.com/news/video-shows-arizona-cop-punch-woman/1613352/

kv

Call me an old-fashioned, out-of-touch with-modernity and outdated old man... but I think that any man who hits a woman is nothing more than a f***ing coward

 

Call me an old-fashioned, out-of-touch with-modernity and outdated old man... but I think that any man who hits a woman is nothing more than a f***ing coward

Amen, I also wonder if he was paid by the Trailer Park owner.

kv

 

Another video that does not include the prelude to the activity, so it lacks context.

Yes, it will get investigated. Yes, if the officer was wrong, they will be prosecuted.

Till then, I'll reserve judgement.

Yes, I don't believe a man should be hitting a woman.

What are the extenuating circumstances?

 

Yes, if the officer was wrong, they will be prosecuted.

Don't hold your breath.

Here's the, "prelude".
"As the video begins, the woman is merely arguing with the officer and is not physical at all. However, Bonar employed the common police tactic of repeating ‘stop resisting’ just before he reached back and delivered a haymaker to the woman’s face."

http://thefreethoughtproject.com/disturbing-video-woman-punched-cop-face/

 

"As the video begins,

There in lies the problem. Does the video begin at the first encounter? There's more to this story than what we hear and see.

 

Don't hold your breath.

Here's the, "prelude".
"As the video begins, the woman is merely arguing with the officer and is not physical at all. However, Bonar employed the common police tactic of repeating ‘stop resisting’ just before he reached back and delivered a haymaker to the woman’s face."

http://thefreethoughtproject.com/disturbing-video-woman-punched-cop-face/

The officer lost his cool. Punching a person in the face is IMO not a compliance move here. It's a punishment for resisting arrest. The woman was foolish to struggle and he was stupid to hit her in the face. He takes a step back to space out the punch in what looks like a attempt to knock her out.

 

The officer lost his cool. Punching a person in the face is IMO not a compliance move here. It's a punishment for resisting arrest. The woman was foolish to struggle and he was stupid to hit her in the face. He takes a step back to space out the punch in what looks like a attempt to knock her out.

I've been around these kinds of take outs before working in Youth Corrections. One individual takes control of the waist and arm from behind, while the arm nearest the arresting officer puts a cuff on one arm and spins it behind to the other to complete the cuffing of both. That would have been the appropriate procedure for a person of that size. Not difficult I might add, and I'm sure they know that drill, its standard training.

Not punching someone in the face and possibly getting Aids or other such Disease's , thats just plain stupid.

kv