I don't support welfare increases for people who have more children in order to collect larger welfare payments. So, by your rules I can stop paying taxes for it.

you would then support a system where taxpayers select the governmental services they want to purchase from the governments. The governments still get to determine how much taxes you pay, you decide where the taxes are to be spent.

So no, you cannot avoid paying taxes. But you can avoid paying for services you don't want, under this system.

 

The problem becomes you have certain obligations under the Constitution.

The second problem is there is no allocations other than what is voted upon and all funds go into the general Treasury, even that 18.5 cents gasoline tax that is supposedly goes to maintaining the roads.

 

you would then support a system where taxpayers select the governmental services they want to purchase from the governments. The governments still get to determine how much taxes you pay, you decide where the taxes are to be spent.

So no, you cannot avoid paying taxes. But you can avoid paying for services you don't want, under this system.

Are trying to sound like my Mom on purpose? Or is something missing due to the lack of visual cues in the text only version?

 

Here's what the police are not doing.
"Heather Marlowe’s rape kit was one of an estimated 400,000 nationwide that went untested."

https://www.rt.com/usa/361132-rape-kit-backlog-lawsuits/

 

The President’s FY 2016 Budget proposes an additional $41 million to continue the Sexual Assault Kit Initiative as well as $20 million for research under the Department of Justice’s National Institute of Justice. This funding aims to identify more effective and efficient strategies to reduce the backlog of sexual assault kits and to prevent future backlogs from occurring.

Does one wonder how many rape kits could be tested for 20 million? 20 e6 / .4 e6 that's 500 available per kit. Add that to the 1250 per kit from the "additional" funding to continue. So would $1750 per kit make a dent?

You can't test if you don't have the funds to test.

You remember the old Flip Wilson routine ...

 

You can't test if you don't have the funds to test.

Maybe they could use the Civil Asset Forfeiture funds instead of buying MRAPs, assault rifles, and grenade launchers. The lowest number I can find (for 2010) is $1.78 billion, most of it having nothing to do with drug dealers or any crime whatsoever.

"the typical seizure is for less than $500."
(It takes 3.56 million seizures per year to make $1.78B out of $500 events. One seizure was for $46. Will you be next?)
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...sset-forfeiture-abuse/?utm_term=.29a5e8f70db1

2010 $1,786,567,692 (+58.2%)
http://www.drugwarfacts.org/cms/Forfeiture

2010 $2.50 billion
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_forfeiture_in_the_United_States

That allows over $4000 for each kit not tested since 1992. (24 years)
After that backlog is taken care of, they can spend a billion per year on only one year of rape kits.
At an average over 24 years of 16,667 kits per year, a billion dollars allows $60,000 per test.
I think that's sufficient, and it only uses half the CAF income.

 

this new guy in Philippines has an interesting approach to drugs and crimes - his war on drugs is a real one, btw.

Interesting to see if his approach works.

 

 

State Senator Fears Retribution from Police over Civil Asset Forfeiture Reform Bill

the bill’s sponsor, state Sen. Holly Mitchell (D).
she was prepared for a more contentious fight ― and concerned that police might be looking for ways to embarrass her and her family.
I had a conversation with my family and told them this would not be the time [for them to get in trouble].”

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/california-civil-asset-forfeiture_us_57c46bf4e4b0cdfc5ac8686f

If a State Senator is afraid of the police, I think I should accept her advice.

State Sen. Kyle Loveless
He wasn’t fazed by the personal attacks against him, Loveless said, adding that law enforcement officials have even accused him of getting support from ISIS and al Qaeda.

“When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser,” Loveless said, quoting Socrates.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/oklahoma-civil-asset-forfeiture_us_56461dd1e4b045bf3deedb11

Make that two Senators.

 

Civil asset forfeiture? Why didn't we think of that.

 

Anyone here from Michigan?
https://fee.org/articles/wed-return-your-seized-property-except-we-already-sold-it/

 

The county sheriff and the prosecutor should be held personally and financially accountable in that Michigan case.

Funny thing is the assets seized in federal drug busts are repurposed or sold with the cash going straight to Treasury. Guess which group of 535 gets to decide on where to spend that "free" money?

 

Guess which group of 535 gets to decide on where to spend that "free" money?

I have that thought often. Headlines yesterday: Wells Fargo fined $20M for abusing loans to (military people). I bet the military people never get a cent of that money.

I really don't know where this money goes, but it's never to the victims.

 

I know a Senator from one of the original colonies who pushed through an appropriation at twice what was asked for. He then ensured that every dime went to it's express purpose with was in his state. He did a good job of bringing home the bacon, and he served many, many years in the legislature branch.


I love this line from the California link ...

“Law enforcement should not be dependent on a source of revenue that is speculative ― you don’t know from year to year how many forfeitures you’re going to have ― but also incentivizes forfeitures to meet certain revenue projections, said Naidoo.

Deficit spending comes to mind. Unless someone thinks the republic of California operates with a surplus by law.

The state senator who is afraid might have some skeletons in their closet, like most people.

 

Most things done are to generate revenue. Now if you complain, your property tax will go up... If you question where your money is going? You will just generally be told that there is no money

 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/police-s...ficers-shooting-california-man-202542069.html

Family members and activists had called for police to release the video, believing it would show that officers acted improperly during the confrontation with Olango.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/us-tried...-southern-201254036--abc-news-topstories.html

Federal officials tried twice to deport Alfred Olango, a 38-year-old man who was shot by police in Southern California on Tuesday. But, his native country of Uganda refused to take him back, according to U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

I wonder why?

 

The state senator who is afraid might have some skeletons in their closet, like most people.

That brings up The Surveillance State, which is probably already in this Thread.
If the Stasi knows every move you make, all they have to do is assign sinister motives to ordinary behavior and Gulag anybody they don't like.
Now, how did I end up on a page about Shot-spotter technology recording personal conversations and the new GE High Efficiency LED street lights with optional cameras and microphones?
That was just 12 hours ago.

https://reason.com/blog/2016/09/28/think-government-surveillance-is-no-big

And a third Senator is in the news in one day, along with a State Representative and a lawyer. All 3 got arrested for filming the police.
"There’s several interesting things about this story beyond the simple fact that a state senator was actually out there filming the cops and they were arrogant enough to arrest him for it. One is the attitude the cop is teaching a trainee that anyone filming them is a “thorn in their side” who is just looking to get arrested. That’s a good peek into the reason the culture of the police is so toxic. they are taught from the day they step on the job the bad habits of the “Bad Apples” that came before them."

http://www.copblock.org/166677/rep-...-civil-rights-lawyer-arrested-filming-police/

 

http://www.copblock.org/166677/rep-...-civil-rights-lawyer-arrested-filming-police/

Proof that stupid cops exist. The camera is your friend fools.

Most officers charged with misconduct are exonerated when video evidence is available.
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/...ur-times-that-video-evidence-exonerated-cops/

 

Most things done are to generate revenue.

This one seems to be going the other way.
School Cop Arrests Black Teen for ‘Stealing’ 65-Cent Milk Carton—Even Though Lunch Is Free
Prosecutors are moving forward with the case against him.

https://reason.com/blog/2016/09/30/school-cop-arrests-black-teen-for-steali

I read that "for-profit prisons" exist, therefore there must be a profit in jailing as many people as possible, and other reports wailing about how much money it costs to jail so many people. I haven't decided which is true or whether they both are. Maybe I'm just discovering who profits and who pays (and whines about it).
"Feed your family on $1.20 a day, the Alabama prison way."
Call Kris Kristopherson. I think I feel a song coming on.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/sep/30/prison-food-spending-budget-cuts-minnesota

I might worry about the War on Drugs bankrupting our economy, but the price of bombing several countries seems to be a lot higher.

 

65-cents for a tiny carton of milk, now that is a crime.