The war on cops, another chapter

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justtrying

Joined Mar 9, 2011
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The first thing you need to do is to have the basic facts right.
He was only shot by the one black undercover officer telling to him to put the gun down, the other officers did not shoot.
I am sorry, I am still waiting to find out who my leader is. I cannot possibly have my facts straight. As far as I am concerned, the way the videos are, no one has the facts established with absolute certainty based on information available.

The videos I posted are to help untrained people in dangerous situations. There was a question on what I would do in a dark alley earlier. I am unarmed, so hopefully I would remember some of my SAMBO training from 20 years ago.

I understand that you stand by the policy of no attempt to de-escalate, but point and shoot instead. Yelling at someone "put the gun down" is not a valid deescslation strategy in my book. (I volunteered with drug addicts and schizophrenics)
 

justtrying

Joined Mar 9, 2011
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So your saying the cops came up on Rodney king and gave him a beat down.

Context is relevant.
If context is relevant, then it is murder. Police is claiming they shoot in self-defence only when fearing for their life. This would have to be a split second, in a moment, gut instinct decision, would it not? comparison - I touch a hot stove, my hand moves before I know it, survival instinct...
 

nsaspook

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JoeJester

Joined Apr 26, 2005
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We already have community policing. The problem is the communities are very large, called cities.

What makes you thing the citywide problems won't translate to the small community force. The citizen panel (politics) will resort to the same thing we see today.
 

#12

Joined Nov 30, 2010
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You have to stay ahead of your attack reaction time or be killed.
That just seems like a bad way to approach a broken tail light. If you don't run up on a person with your gun drawn, he won't go straight to trying to survive.

If the context of the past matters, I should go shoot the guy who murdered my sister 30 years ago. He is a killer of opportunity and makes me fear for my life from 800 miles away.
 

ronv

Joined Nov 12, 2008
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If the video doesn't include five minutes prior to the incident, we don't get the context. This includes the Rodney king video.
In the case of King he got their heart rate way up and their adrenaline flowing. There is testimony from a cop that he didn't even know anyone else was beating on King. Maybe a stress test is what's needed.
 

JoeJester

Joined Apr 26, 2005
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Assuming the possibility of de-escalation is a reality, which I sincerely doubt at times.

What is the first sign that de-escalation is possible? Compliance comes to mind.
 

ronv

Joined Nov 12, 2008
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Assuming the possibility of de-escalation is a reality, which I sincerely doubt at times.

What is the first sign that de-escalation is possible? Compliance comes to mind.
In the case of NC. the guys wife says he has a TBI (traumatic brain injury). They might have backed off to a safe distance and talked to her. My bet is if you had ask them before they talked and saw the videos many of them never heard her screaming. They were already "locked on."
 

dannyf

Joined Sep 13, 2015
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highly unfavorable service record;)
not sure if her prior service record should be a factor in convicting her of her crime on that day.

Let's wait for her day in court and then we can all find out what happened.

In the mean time, let our angels return to their daily routine of looting and rioting in the name of peace and justice.
 

JoeJester

Joined Apr 26, 2005
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In the case of King he got their heart rate way up and their adrenaline flowing. There is testimony from a cop that he didn't even know anyone else was beating on King. Maybe a stress test is what's needed.
King led the CHP on an 8 mile high speed pursuit. He didn't want to violate his probation because he had been drinking.

His record since the 1991 beat down, is replete with additional interventions with the police.

55 people died and 2000 people were injured in the LA Riots that were attributed to the King verdict.
 

dannyf

Joined Sep 13, 2015
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here is today's tally - incomplete I'm sure:

1) 6 in boston;
2) 8 in baltimore;
3) 9 in IL;
4) 6 in dc;

what else until the day's over?
 

JoeJester

Joined Apr 26, 2005
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In the case of NC. the guys wife says he has a TBI (traumatic brain injury). They might have backed off to a safe distance and talked to her. My bet is if you had ask them before they talked and saw the videos many of them never heard her screaming. They were already "locked on."
Yeah, your right. The cops should have backed down and let the person, with a gun, go about their business.

What was the man with the gun thinking at the time the cops were yelling "put down the gun"?
 

dannyf

Joined Sep 13, 2015
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55 people died and 2000 people were injured in the LA Riots that were attributed to the King verdict.
think about all those people whom we could have saved just by letting king go free, :)

enforcing the law is a cruel and discriminatory act.

it is high time that someone starts a criminal lives matter movement. :)
 
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