The inflated electrolytic capacitors...

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Externet

Joined Nov 29, 2005
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There was a plague of failures a decade ago. But the same symptom is not only from bad manufacturing. I believe abuse, bad circuit designs also causes the problem. Newer equipment, in operation about a year, showing inflated capacitors that may got inflated suddently or may have been developing the inflation along some time.

What causes do you attribute for such to each; to sudden and to slow inflation ? When several failing/failed capacitors are in parallel, most show the dome or rupture or nothing visually, and there is usually no clues of heat rose in them. :confused: And very often seen in boards with inductor circuits nearby.

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nsaspook

Joined Aug 27, 2009
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Bad caps (mainly still from bad manufacturing) is a plague that still haunts us, it's just not as bad as before IMO. I've replaced the exact same junk brand cap voltage and capacity with quality caps from OEMS like Panasonic with never an additional capacitor failure.
 

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Externet

Joined Nov 29, 2005
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Thanks.
If I want to bulge, leak, explode an electrolytic capacitor, what should I do to it other than if the voltage is not exceeded ?
 

LowQCab

Joined Nov 6, 2012
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Cause the Capacitor to create excessive HEAT and it will fail every time.
Capacitors generate HEAT because of a too-high ESR rating for the particular application.
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Externet

Joined Nov 29, 2005
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Thanks.
OK. 'cause the capacitor to create its own heat' - How is that done ? -That not being environmental heat or poor equipment dissipation-
 

MrChips

Joined Oct 2, 2009
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At constant DC voltage, ESR has no effect because there is zero current.
With AC, ESR consumes power which is dissipated as heat.
 

LowQCab

Joined Nov 6, 2012
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All quality Electrolytics have 2 "Maximum-Current-Ratings",
usually the first one is at ~120hz,
and the second one may be at ~1000hz, or even somewhere around ~10,000hz.
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Hymie

Joined Mar 30, 2018
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Here is a datasheet for a series of Nichicon electrolytic capacitors that have a claimed withstand of 3,000 hours (or 125 days) at maximum rated ripple current and temperature.

Nichicon are supposed to be quite a good brand; if you operate electrolytic capacitors close to their limits in terms of ripple current and/or temperature, don’t expect them to last 25 years.

https://docs.rs-online.com/13fd/0900766b813cd37a.pdf
 

Ya’akov

Joined Jan 27, 2019
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A key factor is cap death is ripple. Poorly designed power supplies can destroy caps even if the voltages appear well within specs. Check the datasheet of the caps for ripple current maximum and measure the ripple in the current being fed to them.
 

MisterBill2

Joined Jan 23, 2018
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A really violent capacitor explosion that I was asked to evaluate and repair happened with a high intensity flash system that was very conservatively designed. The 450 volt cap was run at about 400 volts, adequate margin. It was also a PHOTOFLASH cap 3 inches in diameter and 5 inches tall. But it exploded from heat. A flaw developed in the trigger circuit and so it started firing the high power flash tube as fast as the supply could recharge, which was about once per second. So after a very few minutes the very high discharge current thru the internal resistance evaporated the plastic part and the aluminum case burst rather violently, it also damaged the steel housing a bit. So capacitor ESR is very real and can lead to overheating and damage.
 

Tonyr1084

Joined Sep 24, 2015
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As a kid I wanted to take a car radio and power it from a 12V transformer and a selenium rectifier. It had bad hum and I wanted to filter out that hum. I had NO IDEA what I was doing. Someone said to use a filter cap. So I found an electrolytic cap rated at 16 volts. And I don't remember how many farads it was. I tried it on the 12V half wave rectified DC - no luck. I tried it on the 12V secondary - no luck. I tried it on the 120VAC primary. BOOM! I have no idea what happened to the guts of the cap but I remember finding the empty shell. So I would guess that I over voltage'd it. Yeah, in fact, I'm SURE that's what I did.

So I don't know what would cause a cap to swell suddenly or over a long period of time. But my first guess would be over voltage. But I'm sure there's more to it than just that.
 

MisterBill2

Joined Jan 23, 2018
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As a kid I wanted to take a car radio and power it from a 12V transformer and a selenium rectifier. It had bad hum and I wanted to filter out that hum. I had NO IDEA what I was doing. Someone said to use a filter cap. So I found an electrolytic cap rated at 16 volts. And I don't remember how many farads it was. I tried it on the 12V half wave rectified DC - no luck. I tried it on the 12V secondary - no luck. I tried it on the 120VAC primary. BOOM! I have no idea what happened to the guts of the cap but I remember finding the empty shell. So I would guess that I over voltage'd it. Yeah, in fact, I'm SURE that's what I did.

So I don't know what would cause a cap to swell suddenly or over a long period of time. But my first guess would be over voltage. But I'm sure there's more to it than just that.
Excess leakage current will cause a correctly rated capacitor to heat, and that will often lead to swelling, or leakage,or bursting.
 

MaxHeadRoom

Joined Jul 18, 2013
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So I don't know what would cause a cap to swell suddenly or over a long period of time. But my first guess would be over voltage. But I'm sure there's more to it than just that.
Excess current,
As is seen in bi-polar electrolytic used as start caps in an induction motor when the centrifugal SW fails etc.
 
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