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R!f@@

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A van was used to mow people down.

The knife attack occurred in a nearby market.

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-40148737
"This is for Allah" ???:eek:
Seriously ?? :confused:
They did this in the month of Ramadan, and shouting This is for Allah. ? o_O

What part of the Ramadan Fasting they do not understand ?
What part of "You shall not fight or harm those who do not fight or harm you" they do not understand ?

They think they are doing this for Allah.
They are not doing this for Allah.
Allah does not require any thing from us.
They just did this for themselves, and they will be punished for it.

Like I said Nut bags.
 
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JoeJester

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In the mid 1990s, there were those who argued that transferring certain technology to the North Koreans would bootstrap their nuclear ambitions to where the North Koreans would have nuclear weapon capability within 10 years. The president choose to ignore that warning.

We have met the enemy and it is us.

As far as the U.S. and Russia goes, it's a MAD scenario, Mutually Assured Distruction.
 

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nsaspook

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http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/london-bridge-terrorist-ringleader-named-10566003
Two of the terrorists who rampaged through London Bridge killing seven and injuring 49 have been unmasked.

Khuram Shazad Butt, 27, Rachid Redouane, 30, and a third jihadist drove a rented van into crowds before calmly strolling into Borough Market and stabbing multiple victims on Saturday night.

The trio were gunned down by counter terror cops who neutralised the threat within eight minutes of being called to the scene.
http://www.torontosun.com/2017/06/05/a-jihadi-next-door-london-terrorist-appeared-on-tv-doc
Surprise! A man who reportedly appeared on Channel 4’s “The Jihadis Next Door” turned out to be – you guessed it – a Jihadi, according to reports.
http://www.torontosun.com/2017/06/0...t-with-possible-terrorist-in-melbourne-suburb
MELBOURNE, Australia — Australian police said a shootout Monday in which two men died, three police officers were wounded and a female hostage was freed might be related to Islamic extremism.
...
“We asked her more information, at that point a man came on the same line and said ‘This is for IS, this is for al-Qaeda,”’ Seven news director Simon Pristel said.
 

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nsaspook

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https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/07/world/middleeast/iran-parliament-attack-khomeini-mausoleum.html
At least 12 people were killed and 42 others were wounded Wednesday morning in a pair of devastating attacks on two of Iran’s most potent symbols: the national Parliament and the mausoleum of the Islamic Republic’s founder, Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini.

The Islamic State immediately said it was behind the attacks, the first time that the Sunni Muslim extremist group has claimed responsibility for an assault inside Iran, which is predominately Shiite Muslim. The terrorist group is battling with Iranian-backed forces in Iraq and in Syria, and it views Shiite Muslims as apostates.
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The attacks unfolded over several hours, starting around 10:30 a.m., when men armed with assault rifles and suicide vests — some of them dressed as women — descended on the Parliament building, killing at least one security guard, and wounding and kidnapping other people. The standoff lasted for about four hours.
 

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nsaspook

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/loca...67170a-3ca5-11e7-8854-21f359183e8c_story.html
The events surrounding the capture of Abu Khattala, accused as the mastermind of the lethal attacks in Benghazi that killed a U.S. ambassador and three other Americans, are emerging with rare detail in testimony and records in an ongoing federal court case in Washington.

Abu Khattala’s lawyers want his statements to FBI investigators thrown out, arguing that his capture and detention in a windowless room below deck were coercive and render meaningless the many waivers he signed giving up his right to an attorney and his right to not incriminate himself.

He has pleaded not guilty to charges including murder.
13 days in a "windowless room below deck", the poor terrorist baby.
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/ahme...-charges-september-2012-attack-benghazi-libya
The superseding indictment describes Khatallah’s alleged role in the attacks at a U.S. diplomatic mission in Benghazi and a second U.S. facility there, known as the annex. According to the superseding indictment, Khatallah was a leader of an extremist militia group and he conspired with others to attack the facilities, kill U.S. citizens, destroy buildings and other property, and plunder materials, including documents, maps and computers containing sensitive information.

The offenses that could carry death sentences include one count of murder of an internationally protected person; three counts of murder of an officer and employee of the United States; four counts of killing a person in the course of an attack on a federal facility involving the use of a firearm and a dangerous weapon; and two counts of maliciously damaging and destroying U.S. property by means of fire and an explosive causing death.

The seven other new charges in the superseding indictment include one count of providing material support and resources to terrorists resulting in death; three counts of attempted murder of an officer and employee of the United States; two counts of maliciously destroying and injuring dwellings and property, and placing lives in jeopardy within the special maritime and territorial jurisdiction of the United States, and attempting to do the same; and one count of using, carrying, brandishing and discharging a firearm during a crime of violence, which carries a mandatory minimum sentence of 30 years in prison.
 

ronv

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The Mid East is complicated.:D
Associated Press, Riyadh Sunday, 21 May 2017
President Donald Trump says that he and the Emir of Qatar will discuss the purchase of “lots of beautiful military equipment.”
Trump and Sheikh Tamim bin Hamad Al Thani met Sunday morning in Riyadh in a bilateral meeting.
The president said the two nations had been “friends for a long time.” He added that “no one makes” military equipment like the United States and said a deal would create jobs for the US and security for Qatar.
This week:
Donald Trump has accused Qatar of sponsoring terrorism at the highest levels, in an extraordinary escalation of the diplomatic row with one America’s most important military partners in the Middle East
Guesss it beats bombing them.:rolleyes:
 
Donald Trump has accused Qatar of sponsoring terrorism at the highest levels, in an extraordinary escalation of the diplomatic row with one America’s most important military partners in the Middle East
Same 'brand' of treachery, different administration!:rolleyes: -- To wit: Obama wasn't exactly 'cuddly' with Israel either:rolleyes: -- Discomfiting though it is, I'm beginning to feel general suffrage represents the weakest aspect of 'our system' -- as witnessed by the abominable choice in candidates this cycle {i.e. Trump and Clinton} and the preceding two-fold election of a terrorist apologist and traitor to this nation (i.e. Obama via collusion with Iran, etc...) last cycle...

Trouble is, I haven't the first idea how to 'fix it':confused: -- Inasmuch as 'single-issue myopia' and 'petty caprice' would seem to be the 'central issues', one is tempted to suggest a 'voter competency test' howbeit abuse (i.e. political bias) would be all of real, imagined and inextricable from any paradigm I can envision...

Ah... Well... Life's tough:rolleyes:;)

Best regards
HP

PS to any who feel I've got Trump and/or Obama 'all wrong', my compliments to your oculist and your choice in stunning rose-colored eye-wear:rolleyes::D
 

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ronv

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Same 'brand' of treachery, different administration!:rolleyes: -- To wit: Obama wasn't exactly 'cuddly' with Israel either:rolleyes: -- Discomfiting though it is, I'm beginning to feel general suffrage represents the weakest aspect of 'our system' -- as witnessed by the abominable choice in candidates this cycle {i.e. Trump and Clinton} and the preceding two-fold election of a terrorist apologist and traitor to this nation (i.e. Obama via collusion with Iran, etc...) last cycle...

Trouble is, I haven't the first idea how to 'fix it':confused: -- Inasmuch as 'single-issue myopia' and 'petty caprice' would seem to be the 'central issues', one is tempted to suggest a 'voter competency test' howbeit abuse (i.e. political bias) would be all of real, imagined and inextricable from any paradigm I can envision...

Ah... Well... Life's tough:rolleyes:;)

Best regards
HP

PS to any who feel I've got Trump and/or Obama 'all wrong', my compliments to your oculist and your choice in stunning rose-colored eye-wear:rolleyes::D
No, I meant it. The Mid East is complicated.:eek::D
Let's punish Qatar. They are cozy with Iran. Let's arm up Saudi Arabia.Oh wait Iran is fighting our worst threat - ISIS.
Oh, wait, wait Saudi Arabia funds ISIS. Oh wait, wait, wait, our best forward operating base is in Qatar. Why didn't somebody tell me about that.
You mean this is the same guy?:eek:
President Donald Trump says that he and the Emir of Qatar will discuss the purchase of “lots of beautiful military equipment.”
Trump and Sheikh Tamim bin Hamad Al Thani met Sunday morning in Riyadh in a bilateral meeting.
The president said the two nations had been “friends for a long time.” He added that “no one makes” military equipment like the United States and said a deal would create jobs for the US and security for Qatar.
 

JoeJester

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Is he taking money? How much of the 270k is ending up in Trump's pockets?

Besides, who wrote the check?

When were the reservations made? Were there available and equivalent services at other hotels.

What services were provided?

Did Trump negotiate any of this?

How much time does Trump dedicate to running that hotel?

Follow the money ... Every last cent.

Then do the same for the Clinton foundation.
 
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ronv

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Is he taking money? How much of the 270k is ending up in Trump's pockets?
So far all of it.
Besides, who wrote the check?
A lobby group wrote the check. Who else?:rolleyes::D
When were the reservations made? Were there available and equivalent services at other hotels.

What services were provided?

Did Trump negotiate any of this?

How much time does Trump dedicate to running that hotel?
Some details here.
Follow the money ... Every last cent.
Then do the same for the Clinton foundation.
Funny you bring that up. I have looked at Clinton's taxes. I didn't see a thing. I would love to do the same with Trump's but I can't seem to find them on line like Clinton's.:(
But having said that. If Clinton did do something wrong does that give Trump s free pass?
Edit:
Remember this one?
 
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takao21203

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The whole middle east is one big problem.

Ive blocked all these countries (except Turkey) from buying, reason, items not arriving + buyers arrogant.

As far as I understand it certain Muslime are upset about "pink freedom" seen in recent years for instance online, as well such special population groups emancipating (for instance a 2 women couple won a 200k lawsuit bcz bakery refusing to bake them a wedding cake).

It is fundamentally against the teachings from their Quoran. As a result, they see it fit to resort to Jihad (as they call it), and they believe theyd be rewarded for their courage and self sacrifice (after their dead).

In fact, the result is reprimandation of the Muslim community as such, and its certainly not improving their standing within the community.

Violence and acts of terror are not a solution.

They should either express their disapproval peacefully (we have free speech as a human right), or, if they dont like it in the UK, they should get out (leave the country).

May I ask, is it possible for whites to come to Middle east countries, claim benefits, receive humanitarian assitance?
All this support is one direction only and we should reconsider if asylum and benefits for immigrants are appropiate, moreover, if our people at these places could gain similar assitance or even, could go there at all.

Theres plenty poor people, homeless, addicts and jobless in the need of help and assistance. I never understood why paid staff (26k a year) is raising funds for Amnesty International on the streets, why people should text 4 Euro to Concern to help Africa, the TV spot paid for, why immigrants could bring their families as well + claim benefits, when recently, families with children are put out on the street (cant pay their mortgaga or rents rising), as well downtrodden homeless in recent 2 years sleep on main shopping avenues, in sleeping bags, covered with cardboard and even tents. Every night!

Shouldnt these receive assitance first? Principle of setting priorities, help the own people first, if any money is left, send it abroad and allow immigrants.

As such the japanese government doesnt want immigration at all, doesnt help indigent people, theres no welfare for young people.
Some thousands each year come to the airport (mostly Narita), almost all are deported again.

I also doubt someone who can allocate several thousands to pay a traffiker is so much endangered that making a living wouldnt be possible.

In fact, bcz I did it so I know how it is, even when making some money and having proper accounts, raising just USD 2000 is quite tough.

I doubt these 5k or 8k come from legal trade or employment. Sure, its always some uncle grandfather or such, who somehow had this money, and gave it to the emigrating fellow. Its just not real life its not happening this way.

Immigration as such, asylum, need to be reconsidered, welfare and benefits too and housing.
The problem is our socities never have been designed or engineered they just evolved, wars and revolutions happened, and many problems have never been solved so far.

Well you wonder about terrorism. You need to research it all, how our society has developed, human rights situation, real life cases, integration of these foreigners into local community, do they work or do they trade drugs? Do they speak english or do they stand in the streets in groups and laugh?

The UN should work on fundamentals such as basic human rights: For housing, employment, a bank account, proper documentation, immigration both sided (our people could go middle east or Africa too), solve domestic problems first, tackle the drug addiction epidemic.

If they cant do this they are just a hollow apparatus consuming billions and probably making things worse. They should demonstrate they are effetively working with foreign governments, if they cant they should perhaps just close the doors, erect a wall or fence, and stop cooperation with these foreign governments.

Anyone immigrating here should either accept our culture language and lifestyle, or should leave again. Multiculturalism is not a good thing it goes as far, they push aside native people and take their place, native people cant get a job, illegal immigrants take them, easily replaceable and cheap.

The EU implements the Schengen agreement for instance, as such a good idea, but the british realized hundreds of thousands eastern Europeans came, mostly claiming benefits, taking cheap jobs, and resorting to crime, as well poor english. It already happened and the british do no longer wish to provide benefits or housing, or see jobs taken by them (and native people going on benefits).

By the way you should look up definition of Allah- it means, he who is, something like God.
In theory, if youre a good man, theres no barrier youd also be respecting Allah as such and could harmonize with Muslims, theyd respect you if theyre true Muslime. Ahmadinejad talks about fake religion sometimes. You should also research this man.

Our goverments should work more with Muslim communities so they respect our people and culture more. If they fail to do this they should not be allowed to maintain secluded communities here, effectively, you could not go inside perhaps at all. Thats something that shouldnt be. They should speak the native language and the community should be open for all (like a buddhist church).

Would you prefer to have people removed even if theres no law or would you prefer more attacks? So everyone not speaking english well, having any criminal records, no job, pack in a bus, to the airport/trainstation tomorrow.
 

ronv

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The whole middle east is one big problem.

Ive blocked all these countries (except Turkey) from buying, reason, items not arriving + buyers arrogant.

As far as I understand it certain Muslime are upset about "pink freedom" seen in recent years for instance online, as well such special population groups emancipating (for instance a 2 women couple won a 200k lawsuit bcz bakery refusing to bake them a wedding cake).

It is fundamentally against the teachings from their Quoran. As a result, they see it fit to resort to Jihad (as they call it), and they believe theyd be rewarded for their courage and self sacrifice (after their dead).

In fact, the result is reprimandation of the Muslim community as such, and its certainly not improving their standing within the community.

Violence and acts of terror are not a solution.

They should either express their disapproval peacefully (we have free speech as a human right), or, if they dont like it in the UK, they should get out (leave the country).

May I ask, is it possible for whites to come to Middle east countries, claim benefits, receive humanitarian assitance?
All this support is one direction only and we should reconsider if asylum and benefits for immigrants are appropiate, moreover, if our people at these places could gain similar assitance or even, could go there at all.

Theres plenty poor people, homeless, addicts and jobless in the need of help and assistance. I never understood why paid staff (26k a year) is raising funds for Amnesty International on the streets, why people should text 4 Euro to Concern to help Africa, the TV spot paid for, why immigrants could bring their families as well + claim benefits, when recently, families with children are put out on the street (cant pay their mortgaga or rents rising), as well downtrodden homeless in recent 2 years sleep on main shopping avenues, in sleeping bags, covered with cardboard and even tents. Every night!

Shouldnt these receive assitance first? Principle of setting priorities, help the own people first, if any money is left, send it abroad and allow immigrants.

As such the japanese government doesnt want immigration at all, doesnt help indigent people, theres no welfare for young people.
Some thousands each year come to the airport (mostly Narita), almost all are deported again.

I also doubt someone who can allocate several thousands to pay a traffiker is so much endangered that making a living wouldnt be possible.

In fact, bcz I did it so I know how it is, even when making some money and having proper accounts, raising just USD 2000 is quite tough.

I doubt these 5k or 8k come from legal trade or employment. Sure, its always some uncle grandfather or such, who somehow had this money, and gave it to the emigrating fellow. Its just not real life its not happening this way.

Immigration as such, asylum, need to be reconsidered, welfare and benefits too and housing.
The problem is our socities never have been designed or engineered they just evolved, wars and revolutions happened, and many problems have never been solved so far.

Well you wonder about terrorism. You need to research it all, how our society has developed, human rights situation, real life cases, integration of these foreigners into local community, do they work or do they trade drugs? Do they speak english or do they stand in the streets in groups and laugh?

The UN should work on fundamentals such as basic human rights: For housing, employment, a bank account, proper documentation, immigration both sided (our people could go middle east or Africa too), solve domestic problems first, tackle the drug addiction epidemic.

If they cant do this they are just a hollow apparatus consuming billions and probably making things worse. They should demonstrate they are effetively working with foreign governments, if they cant they should perhaps just close the doors, erect a wall or fence, and stop cooperation with these foreign governments.

Anyone immigrating here should either accept our culture language and lifestyle, or should leave again. Multiculturalism is not a good thing it goes as far, they push aside native people and take their place, native people cant get a job, illegal immigrants take them, easily replaceable and cheap.

The EU implements the Schengen agreement for instance, as such a good idea, but the british realized hundreds of thousands eastern Europeans came, mostly claiming benefits, taking cheap jobs, and resorting to crime, as well poor english. It already happened and the british do no longer wish to provide benefits or housing, or see jobs taken by them (and native people going on benefits).

By the way you should look up definition of Allah- it means, he who is, something like God.
In theory, if youre a good man, theres no barrier youd also be respecting Allah as such and could harmonize with Muslims, theyd respect you if theyre true Muslime. Ahmadinejad talks about fake religion sometimes. You should also research this man.

Our goverments should work more with Muslim communities so they respect our people and culture more. If they fail to do this they should not be allowed to maintain secluded communities here, effectively, you could not go inside perhaps at all. Thats something that shouldnt be. They should speak the native language and the community should be open for all (like a buddhist church).

Would you prefer to have people removed even if theres no law or would you prefer more attacks? So everyone not speaking english well, having any criminal records, no job, pack in a bus, to the airport/trainstation tomorrow.
If you need help with your wall we have a guy we could maybe send you. :D
PS.
Just curious. Have you always lived in the EU?
PSS.
How often did your spider molt? I'm still waiting for my tarantula.
 
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takao21203

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If you need help with your wall we have a guy we could maybe send you. :D
PS.
Just curious. Have you always lived in the EU?
PSS.
How often did your spider molt? I'm still waiting for my tarantula.
Yes send him to stand guard in the city to prevent drug dealers approaching people.

Yes always lived in the EU but England is not exactly Europe.

A lot but right now Im not cultivating spiders. Ive seen a few daddy long legs so far, one in a kitchen press, it appreciated me closing the door slowly. Later that that I saw another one in my room carrying an eggball. Theyre very clever actually.

Now Im into growing plants recently, some hudge tomato plants, morning glory, cornflower, sunflower, strawberry, catnip, and cactus plants too using USA seeds.

And I take videos of ants if I see some.
 

JoeJester

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I didn't realize all the e.ployees and those that provide services and materials to Trump international Hotels worked for free.

How much money did president Trump put into his pocket from that report. (Moderator's note: unflattering reference to a member deleted)
 
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ronv

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I didn't realize all the e.ployees and those that provide services and materials to Trump international Hotels worked for free.

How much money did president Trump put into his pocket from that report. Obviously the reporter doesn't know(Moderator's note: unflattering reference to a member deleted)
You can bet is wasn't zero. If we just had those taxes he promised we could tell.:D
 
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