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ronv

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I have been pounding you with (Noam Chompsky) Mantra, if you haven't read MANUFACTURING CONSENT "The Political Economy of the Mass Media" then you have no bearing to where or what I'm thinking. The left worship him like a "God" and if you open your eye's you would see what I'm saying. How many post's do I have to leave as bread crumbs for you to see that.

kv
This is coming from the alternate fact factory and the President that punishes certain outlets and manufactures his own opinion column? Scheesh.:eek:
 

killivolt

Joined Jan 10, 2010
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This is coming from the alternate fact factory
Yes, what is forthcoming is the alternate fact factory. (Mainstream Media)

and the President that punishes certain outlets
Not sure how but, if refusing comment (To certain Media) is maybe a good choice under the political climate.

manufactures his own opinion column? Scheesh.:eek:
Yes, this is something we will deal with in the future, on both side of the isle. Instant gratification and bypass mainstream media. Going direct to the public at large, yet dragging a piece of bloody meat in front of the hounds.

kv
 

tcmtech

Joined Nov 4, 2013
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I love ignorant quotes by ignorant people. Joey obviously hasn't been to Europe since the attack in Paris. Sad (and funny at the same time) how quickly other ignorant people jump on these types of ignorant claims.
A you yourself have proven to be the master of ignorance and general not knowing what's actually going on in reality you are, or at least should be, the indisputable expert on identifying such behivior. :rolleyes:
 

cmartinez

Joined Jan 17, 2007
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"I'd blow up the pipes, I'd blow up the refineries"

So far, he's blown one of their hideouts (good for him, btw). Pipes and refineries are their money cows, but no one has touched them yet, AFAIK.
 

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nsaspook

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"I'd blow up the pipes, I'd blow up the refineries"

So far, he's blown one of their hideouts (good for him, btw). Pipes and refineries are their money cows, but no one has touched them yet, AFAIK.
The US (very limited) and Russians have struck ISIS stolen oil but the oil infrastructure belongs to the Syrian state so direct attacks on production are limited. The Russians have it and the US wants it but it's really peanuts on the global scale.
 

shortbus

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"I'd blow up the pipes, I'd blow up the refineries"

So far, he's blown one of their hideouts (good for him, btw). Pipes and refineries are their money cows, but no one has touched them yet, AFAIK.
Or for that matter, anything that really means much. $16M to kill 36 enemy in Afghanistan. $60M to take out a few old planes in Syria. Sounds like a trump brand all right.
 

ronv

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"I'd blow up the pipes, I'd blow up the refineries"

So far, he's blown one of their hideouts (good for him, btw). Pipes and refineries are their money cows, but no one has touched them yet, AFAIK.
We need it. If it costs 1/2 million for each one we kill, it's going to get expensive.
 

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nsaspook

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and yet it seems that ISIS is surviving on peanuts... unless a foreign government is surreptitiously supporting them, but I doubt it
The money from oil is peanuts for a US style war but you don't need much to feed fanatic killers if you have an almost unlimited supply of weapons.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finances_of_ISIL
According to a 2015 study by the Financial Action Task Force, ISIL's five primary sources of revenue are as followed (listed in order of significance):

  • proceeds from the occupation of territory (including control of banks, oil and gas reservoirs, taxation, extortion, and robbery of economic assets)
  • kidnapping for ransom[1]
  • donations by or through non-profit organizations
  • material support provided by foreign fighters
  • fundraising through modern communication networks[2]
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...-to-cut-off-islamic-state-s-funds-have-failed
It’s not clear how the U.S. got it so wrong, Bahney says, but he suspects that the latest round of airstrikes are directly related to the administration’s new math. “You have to go after the oil, and you have to do it in a serious way, and we’ve just begun to do that now,” he says. Yet even if the U.S. finally weakens the group’s oil income, Bahney and other analysts in the U.S., the Middle East, and Europe contend, Islamic State has resources beyond crude—from selling sex slaves to ransoming hostages to plundering stolen farmland—that can likely keep it fighting for years. In any case, $500 million buys a lot of $500 black-market AK-47s.
 

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nsaspook

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Or for that matter, anything that really means much. $16M to kill 36 enemy in Afghanistan. $60M to take out a few old planes in Syria. Sounds like a trump brand all right.
Sounds like old (2003) money was well spent in Afghanistan. The cave complex was a hardened target. Maybe the shelf life of the MOAB bombs is getting near. If that's the case then use them all.
 

cmartinez

Joined Jan 17, 2007
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$16M to kill 36 enemy in Afghanistan
While I agree that those numbers are pretty high for the apparent results. I'm willing to bet that the recently blown hideout was more important than just a roadside motel for ISIS. There was probably an important stockpile of weapons and other stuff in there too.
 

tcmtech

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Seems we hurt their feelings too. :D

The Taliban condemned the use of the bomb, saying in a statement, "Using this massive bomb cannot be justified and will leave a material and psychological impact on our people."
Also military tech that's being ready since 2003 is 'new' to some people as well. :rolleyes:

Former Afghan president Hamid Karzai condemned the use of the weapon on Afghan soil.

"This is not the war on terror, but the inhuman and most brutal misuse of our country as testing ground for new and dangerous weapons," he said on social media network Twitter.
Apparently terror isn't fun for terrorists when they are on the receiving end. :p

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...ilitants-in-afghanistan/ar-BBzPn2n?li=BBnb7Kz
 

cmartinez

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"Using this massive bomb cannot be justified and will leave a material and psychological impact on our people."

Gee... I thought that was the whole point of the attack...
 
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