As we are waiting to hear from the Russians... I am afraid we are all up s*** creek with no paddles.

The Russians have been expecting this. They were supposed to dispose of Syria's chemistry set years ago and they didn't get the job done. If they were unhappy with a missile attack, they should have intercepted our $1M/unit bangers.

 

The Russians have been expecting this. They were supposed to dispose of Syria's chemistry set years ago and they didn't get the job done. If they were unhappy with a missile attack, they should have intercepted our $1M/unit bangers.

This is probably the first time I've wholeheartedly agreed with Trump's actions... no reservations ... I hope it's not the last

 

This is probably the first time I've wholeheartedly agreed with Trump's actions... no reservations ... I hope it's not the last

I guess we will see which Nations are behind the action, and who isn't. Jordan is leading Trump on the action.

kv

 

But, I definitely will be getting what your getting, since your all in with the rest of the coup d'état.

You need to put into words what is in your mind, my crystal ball is blurry. Where the hell did this 'coup d'etat' come from?

 

The Russians have been expecting this. They were supposed to dispose of Syria's chemistry set years ago and they didn't get the job done. If they were unhappy with a missile attack, they should have intercepted our $1M/unit bangers.

that is the question right now - is the system operational or it just wasnt used?

As far as the action is concerned, Trump had to do something and he did. What is next? You want Assad removed on false pretenses? Once again, look at Serbia... maybe you want to kill him in jail also?

What precipitated this event? I had access to TV for two days and watched US news networks. It seems like a viral mental illness of some sort - Assad bombed his people because that is what he does. That is what bad people do. They are our enemy.

The attack was planned, russians would have known about the potential of course.

Will Trump now support Syrian "rebels" or was this a one off?

p.s I will refrain from commenting on white helmets operations

 

You need to put into words what is in your mind, my crystal ball is blurry. Where the hell did this 'coup d'etat' come from?

Thats because your blind to the Liberal Mainstream Media, you can't see through the smoke and mirrors.

I can explain it to you, but can't understand it for you.

kv

Edit: I won't waste my time or energy.

 

When will Europe recognize it is involved in a war?

 

When will Europe recognize it is involved in a war?

perhaps when US realizes that it isn't

 

Will Trump now support Syrian "rebels" or was this a one off?

p.s I will refrain from commenting on white helmets operations

I hope that all sides will get back to normal. Syria with Russian help can continue dropping conventional explosives on civilians in their task of defeating the 'rebel' terrorists who have launched all sorts of nasty things at the Syrian army and pro-Assad civilians while the US watches it happen. The last thing we need is another power vacuum in Syria.

http://indianexpress.com/article/ex...-the-global-cant-on-chemical-weapons-4601179/

In the time since, though, chemical warfare has become an entrenched part of the Syrian civil war: jihadists are accused of having used various agents regularly, while the government is alleged to have used them in east Hama and Raqqa. In the absence of an independent investigation architecture, flat-out denial is the norm: Russia and Syria, for example, claim their jets hit a jihadist stockpile in Khan Sheikhoun.

Perhaps even more than these currently hard-to-answer questions of culpability, though, are some unaddressed ethical questions on chemical weapons. Why is it that killing people with chemical weapons is taboo — but the far more largescale, and every bit as painful, killing of people with conventional weapons considered legitimate?

 

I hope that all sides will get back to normal. Syria with Russian help can continue dropping conventional explosives on civilians in their task of defeating the 'rebel' terrorists who have launched all sorts of nasty things at the Syrian army and pro-Assad civilians while the US watches it happen. The last thing we need is another power vacuum in Syria.

http://indianexpress.com/article/ex...-the-global-cant-on-chemical-weapons-4601179/

Kind of looks like we need bigger bombs.
Lot of talk flying around on how many hit.

 

Kind of looks like we need bigger bombs.
Lot of talk flying around on how many hit.

There's plenty of video evidence on the web about the cruise missile attack. It was designed to be highly symbolic, minimize possible deaths and was of low military value. From what little I've seen it destroyed some old MIG-23 planes in revetments, fuel dumps and maybe some air-search radars. Any holes in the runway craters can be fixed in a few days that resulted from the small missile warheads. We correctly told the Russians about the attack just to be sure their forces were clear (don't want Trump to start WW3 like many feared during the election).

One strange thing, it was reported that US forces didn't bomb a known chemical stockpile at the base because it might spread and cause deaths to nearby populations but then it's also reported that Syrian forces bombing a known rebel position couldn't have caused gassing from a possible rebel chemical stockpile on the ground.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-airbase-chemical-weapons-idlib-a7672126.html

Donald Trump’s national security adviser, Herbert “HR” McMaster, told a press conference the attack aimed to reduce the airfield’s ability to “continue mass murder attacks against Syrian civilians”.

“There were measures put in place to avoid hitting what we believe is a storage of sarin gas, so that that would not be ignited and cause a hazard to civilians or anyone else,” he said.

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/r...sing-leak-rebels-own-chemical-arsenal-n742791

However, Russian defense ministry spokesman Igor Konoshenkov said the deadly leak came from a rebel workshop used to make chemical weapons.

"Syrian aviation made a strike on a large terrorist ammunition depot and a concentration of military hardware in the eastern outskirts of Khan Sheikhoun," he said in a video statement, referring to the rebel-held town in northern Syria where the deaths occurred Tuesday.

He said "chemical-laden weapons" made by rebels at the site had previously been used by militants in Iraq — an apparent reference to a report last month from the International Committee of the Red Cross that toxic agents had been used in fighting near Mosul.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-syria-idUSKBN1782S0

The Syrian government and Moscow have denied that Syrian forces were behind the gas attack, but Western countries have dismissed their explanation that chemicals leaked from a rebel weapons depot after an air strike as not credible.

Who knows that happened, maybe they both were using chemicals during this attack.

 

 

Thats because your blind to the Liberal Mainstream Media, you can't see through the smoke and mirrors.

I can explain it to you, but can't understand it for you.

Sounds like your reading the new book, "Big Agenda". Hope your putting your mind in the dryer, after the wash cycle.

 

Syria with Russian help can continue dropping conventional explosives on civilians in their task of defeating the 'rebel' terrorists who have launched all sorts of nasty things at the Syrian army and pro-Assad civilians

So the 'rebels' should have just stood by and kept dying?
"The Assad family has been in control of Syria since 1971, when Hafez al-Assad became president. In February 1982, he ordered a nearly month-long military besiegement of Hama to crack down on the Muslim Brotherhood’s anti-government uprising. The attack left about 30,000 civilians dead."
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/0...ained-how-anti-assad-sentiment-escalated.html

 

Now I see where you're going wrong, you get your information from Fox News.

So the 'rebels' should have just stood by and kept dying?
"The Assad family has been in control of Syria since 1971, when Hafez al-Assad became president. In February 1982, he ordered a nearly month-long military besiegement of Hama to crack down on the Muslim Brotherhood’s anti-government uprising. The attack left about 30,000 civilians dead."
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/0...ained-how-anti-assad-sentiment-escalated.html

The 'rebels' are also terrorists so I don't care if they die in the most horrible way possible. It's a war between a secular (Islamic government ) brutal dictator (who became the expected next dictator when his brother, the old expected new dictator was killed in a car crash in 1994) and a dictatorship of religious (Islamic state like) jihadist fanatics AKA terrorists. There are no good guys to protect civilians in Syria so I choose secular brutal dictator like most of the groups in Syria.

Syrian rebels are today mainly terrorist that were once helped by the CIA to overthrow Syrian president Bashar al-Assad. A pox on all of them including the Russians in Syria.

The Assad's are Alawites, not pure Islamist. (Syncretism) The Islamist Muslim Brotherhood terror group used a campaign of suicide bombings and assassinations in the 70's that killed several hundred Baath’s party officers and civil servants. Many of their targets were Alawites. When in power Hafez had his military crush its Islamist uprising through torture, mass executions, commando raids, and the assault on Hama, a siege that killed tens of thousands of people.

Old Dad was a bastard killer.

 

Thats because your blind to the Liberal Mainstream Media, you can't see through the smoke and mirrors.

I can explain it to you, but can't understand it for you.

Sounds like your reading the new book, "Big Agenda". Hope your putting your mind in the dryer, after the wash cycle.

Your reaching, stop and you'll be ok. "Big Agenda"? Now, your just offensive and rude. Lets all just sit back and see where we go from here.

kv

 

Your reaching, stop and you'll be ok. "Big Agenda"? Now, your just offensive and rude.

I'm being rude? And your not with things like this that you give me all of the time?

I can explain it to you, but can't understand it for you.

I ask questions when I don't understand. When you give an answer that comes out of the blue, and has nothing to do with the question, then I'm rude for trying to figure it out? I don't live in the same right wing orbit you do, don't listen to talk radio or any of that stuff so I don't have the references to what your talking about. And yes I admit to being more centrist/main stream like the majority of the population. Never have or will try to hide that fact.

 

Now I see where you're going wrong, you get your information from Fox News.

Can't win can I? Get it if I give main stream sources and now when I give right wing/GOP sources.?

 

Can't win can I? Get it if I give main stream sources and now when I give right wing/GOP sources.?

That should give you a clue of his opinion of Main Stream Media .... like it or not, MSM does include FNC. The format of the 24/7 news channels is the same ... entertainment and news ... Opinion and facts are intertwined.

For newspapers, whether online or print, look at a portion of the author's body of work to detect their bias.

 

I'm being rude? And your not with things like this that you give me all of the time?
I ask questions when I don't understand. When you give an answer that comes out of the blue, and has nothing to do with the question, then I'm rude for trying to figure it out? I don't live in the same right wing orbit you do, don't listen to talk radio or any of that stuff so I don't have the references to what your talking about. And yes I admit to being more centrist/main stream like the majority of the population. Never have or will try to hide that fact.

I have been pounding you with (Noam Chompsky) Mantra, if you haven't read MANUFACTURING CONSENT "The Political Economy of the Mass Media" then you have no bearing to where or what I'm thinking. The left worship him like a "God" and if you open your eye's you would see what I'm saying. How many post's do I have to leave as bread crumbs for you to see that.

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