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ronv

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Tell that to the Mother of the Mentally Challenged boy who was beaten on Camera, also the Old Man that Voted for Trump dragged from his car and beaten repeatedly by Black Youth.

Lets not forget the protestors on Campuses who pepper sprayed those with red hats in support of Trump.

Um, you were saying? Nothing that would convince me.:rolleyes:

kv

Edit: Wake up and smell the coffee, it's 2017.
Are you sure you aren't confusing crime with terrorism.:rolleyes:
 

killivolt

Joined Jan 10, 2010
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Are you sure you aren't confusing crime with terrorism.:rolleyes:
Are you confusing terrorization of a person in the Media with delusion that it isn't? You reach the masses with the message, if your liberal and cross us your next.

kv

Edit: I guess you invite criminals to achieve your goals of the left and condone it.
 
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ronv

Joined Nov 12, 2008
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The definition of terrorist is far too wide today. That's why I included the 'hate fancy white people' example.
I don't see most religious based terrorist groups as right or left because they are on GOD's side. When groups arrive at the point of premeditated murder for a cause, the political leaning of the cause becomes an incidental factor. The baby in the crib or grandma in the rocker is still dead, left, right, center or crackhead.
Could you please explain it to @killivolt . He thinks every time somebody get beat up it's a terrorist attack.:D
 

killivolt

Joined Jan 10, 2010
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No, I'm just looking for someone to educate you about what a real terrorist is. :rolleyes:
I'm sure you do, we'll see it all play's out in the Liberal Media. I'm sure with several mainstream Media no biasing.

kv

Edit: Your hinting helps lol. TDS is terror to the left.
 
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shortbus

Joined Sep 30, 2009
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Tell that to the Mother of the Mentally Challenged boy who was beaten on Camera, also the Old Man that Voted for Trump dragged from his car and beaten repeatedly by Black Youth.

Lets not forget the protestors on Campuses who pepper sprayed those with red hats in support of Trump.

Um, you were saying? Nothing that would convince me.:rolleyes:

kv

Edit: Wake up and smell the coffee, it's 2017.
If that is what you and your friends consider terror, then there was a lot of right wing terror in what the supreme leader did to protestors during his campaign speeches. Under your definition he was a terrorist leader.
 

tcmtech

Joined Nov 4, 2013
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Hmm.

[ter-uh-riz-uh m]
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noun
1.
the use of violence and threats to intimidate or coerce, especially forpolitical purposes.
2.
the state of fear and submission produced by terrorism or terrorization.
3.
a terroristic method of governing or of resisting a government.
Origin of terrorism
1785-1795
First recorded in 1785-95; terror + -ism
Related forms
antiterrorism, adjective
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British Dictionary definitions for terrorism
terrorism
/ˈtɛrəˌrɪzəm/
noun
1.
systematic use of violence and intimidation to achieve some goal
2.
the act of terrorizing
3.
the state of being terrorized

Collins English Dictionary - Complete & Unabridged 2012 Digital Edition
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Word Origin and History for terrorism
n.
1795, in specific sense of "government intimidation during the Reign ofTerror in France" (March 1793-July 1794), from French terrorisme, fromLatin terror (see terror ).

If the basis of a popular government in peacetime is virtue, its basisin a time of revolution is virtue and terror -- virtue, without whichterror would be barbaric; and terror, without which virtue would beimpotent. [Robespierre, speech in French National Convention, 1794]General sense of "systematic use of terror as a policy" is first recorded inEnglish 1798. At one time, a word for a certain kind of mass-destructionterrorism was dynamitism (1883); and during World War I frightfulness(translating German Schrecklichkeit) was used in Britain for "deliberatepolicy of terrorizing enemy non-combatants."


Online Etymology Dictionary, © 2010 Douglas Harper


terrorism definition

Acts of violence committed by groups that view themselves as victimizedby some notable historical wrong. Although these groups have no formalconnection with governments, they usually have the financial and moralbacking of sympathetic governments. Typically, they stage unexpectedattacks on civilian targets, including embassies and airliners, with the aim ofsowing fear and confusion. Israel has been a frequent target of terrorism,but the United States has increasingly become its main target. ( See alsoSeptember 11 attacks, Osama bin Laden, Hezbollah, and Basque region.)

The American Heritage® New Dictionary of Cultural Literacy, Third Edition
Copyright © 2005 by Houghton Mifflin Company.
Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved.
Rather looks like it all comes down to whether a person wants to define an incident or action by 'rational and impartial review' and what actually happened leading up to the incident (media coverage rarely ever does that) or by legalistic 'all plausibly linkable acts' based definition. (media digs for any plausible correlation, even if coincidental or totally factually unrelated, and classifies it an act of terrorism. )
 

killivolt

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If that is what you and your friends consider terror, then there was a lot of right wing terror in what the supreme leader did to protestors during his campaign speeches. Under your definition he was a terrorist leader.
Keep telling yourself that while you slip slowly into Socialism. The Left are following (Noam's) Mantra carrying on his legacy to fruition. NBC, CNBC, ABC, MSNBC, etc.

With FOX destruction both internally and externally regardless, the shift of information has clearly gone to the Left agenda in the Mainstream Media.

Carry on brother protect the left like a dog and its bone, you'll get what you deserve.

kv
 
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ronv

Joined Nov 12, 2008
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@ronv. I recommend you view the dictionary to see how terrorism is defined. Both instances cited constitutes terrorism.
I think we all know what the dictionary says about terrorism. I would hope we all know about the modern definition.
Were either of the examples investigated as an act of terrorism? I think not.
 

tcmtech

Joined Nov 4, 2013
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Keep telling yourself that while you slip slowly into Socialism.

Carry on brother protect the left like a dog and its bone, you'll get what you deserve.
Standard practice of Denialists. Only views and opinions that agree with their own count no matter how poorly founded and irrational or based on and in their own ignorance they may be and your views don't fit theirs so you don't count.. :(

In the psychology of human behavior, denialism is a person's choice to denyreality, as a way to avoid a psychologically uncomfortable truth.[1] Denialism is an essentially irrational action that withholds the validation of a historical experience or event, by the person refusing to accept an empirically verifiable reality.[2] In the sciences, denialism is the rejection of basic facts and concepts that are undisputed, well-supported parts of the scientific consensus on a subject, in favor of radical and controversial ideas.[3] The terms Holocaust denialism and AIDS denialism describe the denial of the facts and the reality of the subject matters,[4] and the term climate change denialist is applied to people who argue against the scientific consensus that the global warming of planet Earth is a real and occurring event primarily caused by human activity.[5] The forms of denialism present the common feature of the person rejecting overwhelming evidence and the generation of political controversy with attempts to deny the existence of consensus.[6][7] The motivations and causes of denialism include religion and self-interest (economic, political, financial) and defence mechanisms meant to protect the psyche of the denialist against mentally disturbing facts and ideas.[8][9]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denialism

And,

Denial
Denial (psychological)

Denial consists of the refusal to accept a past or present reality and is most commonly employed to protect the host from their own negative traits; to protect them from the repeated memories of the negative actions of another or to avoid recognising their own guilt for past actions, thoughts or feelings.

It is a self defence mechanism employed by aspects of the subconscious mind in an attempt to protect emotional and psychological wellbeing.

Denial can be a scary and very sad thing to witness in someone that you love or care about; it is generally very difficult to help someone see the truth and especially for them to truly believe and accept that reality on a long term basis.

People deny responsibility every day for a number of things; but denial itself goes far deeper into the psyche than that. While people in denial generally still have the seed of truth still buried within their heads, they generally cannot believe that it is the truth even when confronted with it. This is due to the mind in effect rewriting or superimposing a more acceptable reality over the original memory.

Even with abject proof of an events occurrence, someone in denial is highly unlikely to fully accept the particular reality that their mind has decided they cannot cope with. They are more likely in that instance to use projection or minimisation or to continue or revert back to being in full blown denial.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Denial
 

JoeJester

Joined Apr 26, 2005
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Were either of the examples investigated as an act of terrorism? I think not.
I don't even know if the one was a hate crime. I doubt they would stretch the charges to terrorism, and yet, that does not change the law.

Now, since those were criminal acts, 18 USC applies

18 U.S. Code § 2331 - Definitions

(5) the term “domestic terrorism” means activities that—
(A) involve acts dangerous to human life that are a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or of any State;
(B) appear to be intended—
(i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population;
(ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or
(iii) to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination, or kidnapping; and
(C) occur primarily within the territorial jurisdiction of the United States.
Of course, you nor I decide how or what statute will use when a prosecutor charges someone.
 

shortbus

Joined Sep 30, 2009
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Rationality is in the eye of the beholder. If you only look at things, and hang out with people that agree with your views, you will see your side as the only 'rational' way. When in fact it isn't the way most people view the world.(thank god) Seeing the boogeyman behind every shadow and the need to stay away from people that don't look or think like you doesn't make you safe. It means your paranoid.

TCM's posting of all his 'psychology' links and quoting them, is a good example. When seen through others eyes, it describes your sides conduct and thoughts just as well.

To understand this you just have to look at how the supreme leaders polls are dropping. He was big on polls when the ratings were up. All you hear now is crickets from him and his supporters now. Guess why? Guess how the country is thinking now, now that he isn't what you guys still think he is. Even his supporters in the republican party are distancing themselves. So KV, I'm pretty sure you'll be getting what you deserve too. Your support won't get you anything in the end.

http://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-latest-approval-rating-plunged-republican-fled-president-579151
 

killivolt

Joined Jan 10, 2010
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So KV, I'm pretty sure you'll be getting what you deserve too. Your support won't get you anything in the end.
His approval rating, I don't give a squat about. But, I definitely will be getting what your getting, since your all in with the rest of the coup d'état.

Ya, I'm going there.

kv
 

tcmtech

Joined Nov 4, 2013
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And performing far better than expected.
Yep. Sort of surprised everyone but then he is well known for being half decent at correctly picking out those who can do the jobs he needs done.

So far about half or a bit more of what he's doing and going for I agree with and about 1/4 is of little to no concern.
The rest varies from week to week. Some I didn't agree at first with but have come to see the larger game in play and follow the longer term intent of it and the rest sort of just fell off my radar entirely.

Mostly the fact he continually gives the liberals and general clueless half wits reasons to keep making asses of themselves (on his behalf and they don't get he's doing it) plus winds the democratic party up is enough to keep them scrambling to find a gainful purpose in life again is enough for me to say he can stay for the remainder of the next 4 years. For now. :D
 
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