No, you miss the point. There have been a couple hundred thousand Iraqi civilians killed since the start of the Iraq war. Do you not think they have felt terrorized?

You are talking semantic Mumbo Jumbo. Not playing this stupid game.

 

You are talking semantic Mumbo Jumbo. Not playing this stupid game.

No, I'm just trying to get you to put yourself into someone else's shoes. I suspect you would be acting the same way.

 

Please elaborate.

I presume by moderators you meant Leaders ?
I believe it is the wahabbis and Islamic leaders that tend to fuel this problem

 

I presume by moderators you meant Leaders ?
Is the wahahabbis and Islamic leaders that tend to fuel this problem

The word he used was "moderates". That is, muslims that are not extremists and believe in peace and harmony should speak out far more loudly to discourage those with violent tendecies.

 

No, I'm just trying to get you to put yourself into someone else's shoes. I suspect you would be acting the same way.

Sure, if grandma was killed by a stray bomb during a military raid or raped, tortured and beheaded by criminals poor grandma would still be dead. Yada, yada , yada ... I know the drill.

 

The word he used was "moderates". That is, muslims that are not extremists and believe in peace and harmony should speak out far more loudly to discourage those with violent tendecies.

@cmartinez Thank you.
@joeyd999 Sorry. I corrected my post #318.

 

@joeyd999 Sorry. I corrected my post.

Whew! I was hoping that was a mistake!

 

Whew! I was hoping that was a mistake!

It was....At first I thought , what has moderators ( of AAC ) got to do with the problem. Still I did not realized it was 'moderate'. So I thought about leaders, you know those who moderates.

@joeyd999 I Seriously felt like crap when @cmartinez corrected me.

 

It was....At first I thought , what has moderators ( of AAC ) got to do with the problem. Still I did not realized it was 'moderate'. So I thought about leaders, you know those who moderates.

@joeyd999 I Seriously felt like crap when @cmartinez corrected me.

You shouldn't feel that way... the members of this forum are smarter than to jump into judgement when having an exchange with someone that they know english is not their birth language...

 

those who moderates

Those are called "moderators" ...

 

On the subject of "Moderating the extremist", tht cannot be done.
They are like brain washed by their leaders.
So some one like me is an infidel to them. ( hey! I used infidel in the correct manner )

You shouldn't feel that way... the members of this forum are smarter than to jump into judgement when having an exchange with someone that they know english is not their birth language...

I hope you guys will keep it that way.

Those are called "moderators" ...

And quit rubbing it in.

 

You shouldn't feel that way... the members of this forum are smarter than to jump into judgement when having an exchange with someone that they know english is not their birth language...

Correction. Most of the members here.

Some are all too happy the play the 'too illiterate/dumb to understand the context, content and general direction of intent' game all too often regardless of the outcome. Especially if they can use it to falsely support their less than rational and or fact based views.

 

And quit rubbing it in.

Funny, I read the post and knew right away what you meant.

kv

 

On the subject of "Moderating the extremist", tht cannot be done.
They are like brain washed by their leaders.

Many are not brainwashed by their leaders but by themselves in order to feel they matter in some way even when it's very obvious they do not.

Those who lead them largely just take advantage of that effect by reinforcing that belief system and giving them a direction to go in that makes them feel like they have a purpose.

To be honest most of those people even if they got 100% of what they wanted wouldn't know what to do once they had reached their goal and would just find a new direction and method of self destruction to go after.

 

Many are not brainwashed by their leaders but by themselves in order to feel they matter in some way even when it's very obvious they do not.

Those who lead them largely just take advantage of that effect by reinforcing that belief system and giving them a direction to go in that makes them feel like they have a purpose.

To be honest most of those people even if they got 100% of what they wanted wouldn't know what to do once they had reached their goal and would just find a new direction and method of self destruction to go after.

Probably that too.

 

It's not my personal interpretation but the only interpretation.

I believe you believe this. Otherwise, what would be the point?

Just understand and remember that everyone else also believes this about their own personal interpretations of whatever it is they are interpreting. Even me.

As much as I abhor (unprovoked) violence, some people do require a gun to their heads -- and sometimes the trigger actually pulled -- as a matter of self-defense.

 

Sure, if grandma was killed by a stray bomb during a military raid or raped, tortured and beheaded by criminals poor grandma would still be dead. Yada, yada , yada ... I know the drill.

Been that way since war began. Only in the recent past has it gotten better.

Your not turning into a snowflake are you?

 

Probably that too.

I've often considered that it's part of a ingrained inferiority complex certain people either develop early in life or from a natural predisposition to have.

No matter how well things go for them they will still feel that they are the victim and deserve better and that others deserve worse despite having absolutely zero rational justifications for any of it.

Trade lives with them and they will still not be content, being if you were willing to trade that will be taken that you knew something they didn't that makes the trade more favorable in your direction than theirs even if it wasn't.

I played that experiment with my Ex a few times where she threw a fit over something petty and stupid and despite me giving her the better deal in trade she still resorted to resentment towards me for it even though it was obvious to anyone she clearly got the better half of the deal and exactly what she wanted.
A few times I even went the other way and traded something I had that she thought better than what she had (when it wasn't) only to have that blow up once she found out it wasn't so great in the end ass he had thought.

Either way it was a no win situation and outcome being no matter what I did I was the 'bad guy who had a trick up his sleeve' for having willingly given her what she wanted even if it was a total loss either way just to show her how petty her wants and justifications for her reasoning and actions were.

 

As much as I abhor (unprovoked) violence, some people do require a gun to their heads -- and sometimes the trigger actually pulled -- as a matter of self-defense.

There are some that need the Breaking wheel so they can ponder their crimes.

 

Your not turning into a snowflake are you?

I lost my snowflake cherry after watching people machine-gun, burn and murder women and children in boats off the coast of Vietnam during the boat people era.

I've mellowed a bit but I would still press the red button without warning if it's needed to stop the Zombie attack.