Temperature controller

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ronsimpson

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I am using a temperature controller and heating element that I did not choose. It does not work the way I want, and the price is very high.
I am making/looking for a proof-of-concept heater controller. Heater load is about 100 watts.
Option 1) I am looking for a low-cost temperature controller, displays in (C) and works from 30C to 175C. Temperature set by hand. $50.00
Option 2) All other instruments are controlled by ethernet. The only controller I have found that talks ethernet is $3000.00.
Option 3) Use a raspberry Pi-3 and a SS relay and make one from nothing. (I do not have that much time)

Thank you for any ideas you have.
RonS.
 

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ronsimpson

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A controller like the one in post #2 is $35 in the US or $11 to $17 in China. I ordered the US one (ship next day) and they are having it sent to me via China (come this month?).
Controllers that talk ethernet are thousands of dollars, but I found one that talks RS485 for about $100.
 

MisterBill2

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The big advantage of an ethernet linked controller is that it is easier to hack by those who want to cause problems.
 
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ronsimpson

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The big advantage of an ethernet linked controller is that it is easier to hack by hose
I wish I knew how hard/easy it is. I have test equipment all over the world. My work group is in Germany, Japan, China & US. We use each other's equipment over night. I think the risk is about the same as having a PC on the internet.
 

MisterBill2

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OK, I was referring to wireless ethernet hacking. Wired connections require physical access and that can be a serious barrier for many. My error of not being specific enough.
 

wayneh

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What level of remote control are you looking for? Smart switches and smart thermostats are quite inexpensive and the better brands have a good-enough level of security. I have several in the house. I can’t imagine needing more.
 

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ronsimpson

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What level of remote control are you looking for?
This is a test setup with many machines. PC, scope, signal generator, power supplies, heat/cool all on a wired network. For the heater I need to set the temperature ( 30C to 175C ) and run tests again. It is common for the temperature to be set every hour via a PC. When the cooler is connected, we go down to -40.
 

wayneh

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So you need to change the temperature set point remotely. Unfortunately a home thermostat likely cannot be programmed to accommodate that range of temperature. Hmmm…. That range rules out a lot of cheap, off-the-shelf solutions and puts you more in the realm of lab equipment, which unfortunately is not cheap.

My Arduino kit has a temperature sensor that can use a platinum RTD probe, which I think might handle that range. Have you looked into microprocessor solutions? They offer a DIY approach to lab equipment. I haven’t tried internet control of such a thing but I gather it’s quite common. Security is an issue with a DIY approach.
 

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ronsimpson

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which unfortunately is not cheap.
I have ordered something very similar to what Danko suggested in #2. ($11.00) It cannot be controlled by remote but that will work for a month. I found a $100 controller that is programmable by RS485 and has optional adapters for USB, RS232.

thanks RonS.
 
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