Just returned from a vacation and found that during that time bunch of local doctors have died, all quite young and seemingly healthy.

Apparently all deaths occurred within just few days from each other and among medical professionals that just received the fourth dose of vaccine. The only statement is from the very hospital that required them to take the shot - saying that vaccine is definitely not a factor without offering much more. One of the five doctors was said to have been secretly battling very aggressive cancer. Ok, that happens... Although it is strange that someone so severely ill, with advanced stage of cancer was spending the last few days working instead of trying to spend more time with the friends and family. And if doomed, why even bother with the vaccine? And what about the others?

As expected, major news outlets barely mention it or at best try to calm the public by repeating that one statement. Practically nothing is heard from the families or other doctors. That too is expected, over the past two years plenty of medical professionals were fired for saying anything that was not aligned with official message.

Of course social media was quite lit with comments that it is not just a coincidence, calling it highly suspicious.

There is a mayoral election this fall in Mississauga and just saw that platform of one of the candidates is to not mandate Covid vaccination - that is to be something to be decided between patient and his doctor.

Still wading through web and trying to find more but it seem to be just more of the same. Will see what comes out. RIP...

 

There is an article here.

 

That article is full of red flags. First of all, it says they died soon after the hospital mandated the booster. It did no say they had even had the booster or when! So they alleging the mandate killed them? Then they go on with all kinds of statistics with no references to back them up.

Here are two refutations:

https://www.techarp.com/facts/doctors-die-2nd-booster-dose/?amp=1

https://www.politifact.com/factchec...-three-doctors-canada-were-neither-sudden-no/

I lost the reference, but the fourth worked at a different hospital and he died of cardiac arrest while competing in a running event.

Typical anti/vaxxer misinformation.

 

https://medicotopics.com/how-did-dr-candace-nayman-die-ontario-doctor-cause-of-death/

There is no reliable information. For me, if hospital mandates 3rd shot, I will be looking to switch professions. I am 40 and there is no reason for me to risk my health. This is not an anti-vaxxer stance, but a simple cost benefit analysis based on data seen thus far.
One must remember that public health is not concerned with the individual...

 

People die every day. Some are unexplained. That is not evidence for any theory you might have about any cause.

I support your right not to get a booster, if you want to take the risk. But I would love to know what evidence you have the the booster is more of a risk than the virus?

My doctor (who is an infectious disease specialist) raised the interesting observation that evidence is beginning to show that masking and distancing is more effective than vaccination. When many of us did so in 2020, flu cases went down to nearly zero. Far fewer cases than there would have been with everyone vaccinated.

 

when there is a vacuum of reasonable answers or sources are known to stretch the truth people are likely to come up with own theories or speculations. and rightfully so...

i am trying to be open minded and well informed. at the same time i tend to have very little trust to information coming from one source, regardless how often is repeated. i tend to not trust sources that show what i perceive as bias. i tend not to trust reports that do not cite the sources or of the source/evidence is not tamper proof.

for example the first refutation link in post #3 is in my opinion a textbook example of something that hits all the alarms. it is nothing more than opinion piece, not one reference etc. the second one is much more reasonable even though the so called "fact checker" pages are usually infamously biased and unreliable. i normally only read those for the entertainment value, not for their credibility.

i took three shots so far and never got Covid. first two shots did not feel at all. The third shot was not like that. I had unexpected heart arrhythmia and it lasted for a month. Never had anything like that before, don't know if the vaccine side effects may have cumulative factor but i am done playing roulette. If the vaccination proof is to continue to be a prerequisite for travel, so be it. i guess i will not be leaving country again in a while. besides climbing mountains is quite strenuous and that is one thing that vaccine seem to be problematic with.

My doctor (who is an infectious disease specialist) raised the interesting observation that evidence is beginning to show that masking and distancing is more effective than vaccination.

Agreed. Everything seem to be more effective than vaccination, not to mention both of those are without side effects. Well there are some issue with masks but i suppose it is tolerable...

There is no reliable information. For me, if hospital mandates 3rd shot, I will be looking to switch professions. I am 40 and there is no reason for me to risk my health. This is not an anti-vaxxer stance, but a simple cost benefit analysis based on data seen thus far.
One must remember that public health is not concerned with the individual...

Well said...


and thanks all who replied