Squelch control for a "baby monitoring" device

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Steve S.

Joined Dec 8, 2014
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I am interested in finding a tech who can create a schematic incorporating a squelch control in the hand held unit of a common baby monitoring device.
Thanks,
Steve
 

Thread Starter

Steve S.

Joined Dec 8, 2014
8
I should have been more specific in my first post. I am looking for someone I can pay to help with this project.
Thanks,
Steve
 

GopherT

Joined Nov 23, 2012
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I should have been more specific in my first post. I am looking for someone I can pay to help with this project.
Thanks,
Steve
You might want to remove your email address and request that some one contact you through the private message system in the allaboutcircuits system
 

Papabravo

Joined Feb 24, 2006
22,115
It would be cheaper to buy the unit that you need. Expect to pay a competent tech at least $35/hr if he has the right equipment. Shoehorning additional circuitry into an existing unit is not a surefire proposition. On top of that it is incredibly easy to damage a board beyond repair and then you'll end up buying a new unit anyway. You should also be aware that over all the years and all the posts there are virtually no stories where an offer to pay resulted in actual work being done and payments received. If there are they are not talking.
 

Papabravo

Joined Feb 24, 2006
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The main problem with modifying and improving an existing low cost consumer device is that you cannot afford to compete with a company that has already made a significant capital investment in custom chips, custom PC board, and custom injection molded plastic packages. To protect their market share they will sue you at the drop of a hat just to protect their market. You cannot get a company off the ground and defend yourself in court simultaneously.

I have over 25 years experience in low volume manufacturing for the industrial sector. The cheapest product we ever sold had a retail price of $110.00 and we sold direct to the customer. We designed the PCB, we wrote the firmware, we designed the packaging, and we did final assembly and test. Our biggest expense after component costs was PCB fabrication and assembly. The product we sold for $110.00 had $20.00 in components, $12.00 in PCB fab, and $15.00 in assembly cost for 100 unit lots. We never got rich even though we used a multiplier of 2.5 burdened material cost.

Making and selling hundreds of something that retails for $10.00 cannot be done profitably. Of course if you have a small fortune and your aim is to dissipate it then by all means -- knock yourself out.
 
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Steve S.

Joined Dec 8, 2014
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I certainly appreciate your time and effort on my behalf.

Your advice and experience has saved me a substantial amount of money.

Thanks,
Steve
 

Papabravo

Joined Feb 24, 2006
22,115
I sometimes feel bad about throwing cold water on people's plans and ideas. The one bit of encouragement I can offer is that there is comparatively little value in a single idea; however there is a vast store of value in a string of ideas. The only way to monetize the value of a string of ideas is to start a company, funded out of your pocket if necessary, and build it slowly by building a few and selling a few.

Oh...and don't quit your day job until you have a winner.
 

alfacliff

Joined Dec 13, 2013
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many of the baby monitors operate on the same frequencies and modes used on scanners, try to find a scanner that will work with your baby monitor transmitter. also, baby monitors usually transmit all the time, so a squelch would probably not work with one.
 

Papabravo

Joined Feb 24, 2006
22,115
many of the baby monitors operate on the same frequencies and modes used on scanners, try to find a scanner that will work with your baby monitor transmitter. also, baby monitors usually transmit all the time, so a squelch would probably not work with one.
That's an excellent point. Most squelch gates operate by detecting the carrier, not the information encoded in the modulation method. If the carrier is on all the time then more sophisticated methods are required to achieve the required function.
 

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Steve S.

Joined Dec 8, 2014
8
Thanks guys.

My intention was to leave the "sending unit" in the on position. There will be continuos collateral noise in this location. The "receiving unit"would "tone out" this noise using an adjustable squelch knob. When the event to be monitored activated it would generate a louder noise overriding the squelch control and notify the "receiving unit" via speaker the sound generated by the event mechanism. To far fetched? Have I broken all the rules of electronics?
 

Papabravo

Joined Feb 24, 2006
22,115
Thanks guys.

My intention was to leave the "sending unit" in the on position. There will be continuos collateral noise in this location. The "receiving unit"would "tone out" this noise using an adjustable squelch knob. When the event to be monitored activated it would generate a louder noise overriding the squelch control and notify the "receiving unit" via speaker the sound generated by the event mechanism. To far fetched? Have I broken all the rules of electronics?
No, I don't think so. You've just asked a series of questions to determine the feasibility of an idea. You haven't stepped in anything yet.
RF or Radio Frequency devices use a variety of methods to combine an information signal with a carrier signal in a transmitter. In the receiver there are circuits that recover a replica of the information signal. Each of the methods has advantages and disadvantages.

Baby monitors, public service radios, and VHF amateur radios use a method called FM for Frequency Modulation. You can read more about it here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frequency_modulation
 
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