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ApacheKid

Joined Jan 12, 2015
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I wouldn't say that no, vindicated? yes I'd say that. For some years now I've observed how Musk's bluster has been divisive rather than constructive, the man lacks leadership skills, he's a bully boss not a leader IMHO. This sets a terrible example to younger people, perhaps aspiring designers and engineers, Musk serves as their example and he's a bad example.

If an attitude and style like Musk's becomes established as a good example of leadership then things do not bode well. This fool has repeatedly abused and insulted anyone and everyone who might disagree with him, from publicly insinuating someone was a pedophile to publicly ridiculing a disabled wheel chair using member of staff, this is how this man spends his time, the richest man on earth is so inept that he actually does this to others for amusement.

In an engineering oriented site like this I think it's important to inspire young minds and set good examples of mature, intellectual leadership, engineers - including young ones - are people not robots, how we teach them about life, how we set examples of ethics and good stewardship are as important as all the theory we teach them.

The USA did not land men on the moon and return them safely by depending on blabber mouthed rude racist bigots, but with superb organization, planning and sound leadership, you won't find much of this under Musk, getting to Mars will not happen.


This is what space was about when I was a kid, this is what inspired me to enter technology as a career, this is what motivated me to emigrate to the USA.
 
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nsaspook

Joined Aug 27, 2009
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Don't try to argue with a Drunk or reason with a Zealot.

I watched the world blowup rockets for 10 years as a kid before the moon landing. Things blowing means we are pushing the limits of what's possible, it's how real world engineering prototyping works.
 

EnzoznE

Joined Apr 11, 2023
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You've said you're born in 1959, the same as me. How is it that you've been infected with this weak ideology that paints all as victims? As the other fine gentleman said, you're in an emotional rant. I suppose you'd also say that rockets could never land and be reused, everything is out of reach for naysayers, until a man with a vision tries until he succeeds.
With your attitude, we'd still be living in candlelight. Your arguments are political, I imagine you were just as fired up about Trump, missing him, you've found something new to chew on.
This woman you're carrying a torch for is destructive and toxic in a company that has but one goal, success. What he's done at Twitter is a prime example of getting rid of these toxic, useless, money draining twits. I suggest you reexamine your position.
 

ApacheKid

Joined Jan 12, 2015
1,762
You've said you're born in 1959, the same as me. How is it that you've been infected with this weak ideology that paints all as victims? As the other fine gentleman said, you're in an emotional rant. I suppose you'd also say that rockets could never land and be reused, everything is out of reach for naysayers, until a man with a vision tries until he succeeds.
With your attitude, we'd still be living in candlelight. Your arguments are political, I imagine you were just as fired up about Trump, missing him, you've found something new to chew on.
This woman you're carrying a torch for is destructive and toxic in a company that has but one goal, success. What he's done at Twitter is a prime example of getting rid of these toxic, useless, money draining twits. I suggest you reexamine your position.
Musk (and Trump) are unimpressive crass, abusive, racist, bullies, everything I said about Musk can be supported by facts and evidence. Musk is not an inventor yet acts as if he is, he is not a software engineer yet acts as if he is, he is not an electronics engineer yet acts as if he is.

He might impress you but not me, do you actually think he can land people on mars and return them? do you really believes that? Even now investors in Tesla are speaking openly about Musk being a loose cannon.

Nothing I said was a "rant" it was simply a refutation of the claim that he is a leader, innovator and genius he's none of those things, I stand by that, reread my posts, I did not base my opinion on emotion, I use readily verifiable facts to support my position.

Explain to us all please, how Musk proposes to overcome all of the well known problems that confront travelers to mars, can you? what about the long term radiation exposure one would get if they did such a trip, try that for starters, how does Musk solve that? do you know? if so please explain, if you don't then why do you believe Musk's BS?
 
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nsaspook

Joined Aug 27, 2009
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That ship was fighting all the way up. The flight control system reacting to continuing failures while still trying to keep flying was glorious.
 
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EnzoznE

Joined Apr 11, 2023
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Money.

Im not a fan of Musk as a person but so far he has been putting his money where his mouth is. He doesn't need to be an inventor, programmer or anything other then a talking head as long as he's funding the real brains to make it happen.
Excellent reply, I will add as further evidence, Steve Jobs. Exactly the same paradigm, I seriously doubt we'd have the tech we have today without his vision that rallied and bull-whipped the talent into inventing those amazing products.

I'm not a huge fan of Musk either, in fact, he may be quite dangerous. He has a fleet of 5G satellites, mass robotic production, and neural implants on the horizon, social media locked down, put that all together, and it could be quite a scary sci-fi movie.

I'm not engaging this guy anymore, waste of time. He's fully entrenched in his "bully" position, victim mentality.
 
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