Size

And payload.

Ah, I thought there was a difference, pun intended a “Big Difference” lol

kv

 

Ah, I thought there was a difference, pun intended a “Big Difference” lol

kv

The end product (maybe years away) will be a radical improvement over the Falcon rocket.

 

Excellent reply, I will add as further evidence, Steve Jobs. Exactly the same paradigm, I seriously doubt we'd have the tech we have today without his vision that rallied and bull-whipped the talent into inventing those amazing products.

I'm not a huge fan of Musk either, in fact, he may be quite dangerous. He has a fleet of 5G satellites, mass robotic production, and neural implants on the horizon, social media locked down, put that all together, and it could be quite a scary sci-fi movie.

I'm not engaging this guy anymore, waste of time. He's fully entrenched in his "bully" position, victim mentality.

The "tech we have today" is attributable to real engineers, real thinkers not marketeers like Steve Jobs. The "tech we have today" is rooted primarily in silicon and those engineers and innovators that came to master the use if it, people like Noyce, Moor, Fagin and Widlar and Cray and many many others.

I personally do not know what "amazing products" can be attributed to Steve Jobs either, surely Martin Cooper is a prime originator of mobile phones, not Jobs. Jobs was not an engineer, he was primarily an obsessive at the right time and place.

The Apple II was a decent product in the 70s but there were many decent computers back then, many and Apple did not come to dominate because of any special master of technology, they did not invent or design the 6502 processor. Apple - like Tesla, are marketing firms, experts at presentation, leveraging existing technologies and hoodwinking a gullible public into falling for personality cults.

Even the GUI we see today in Windows and many other platforms was invented by Xerox and later marketed and exploited by Gates and Jobs.

It saddens me that so many seem unaware, have fallen for the bluster and personality cults, if you want to give credit for technology that's fine but at least give it to the right individuals.

We don't need to admire or respect the Jobs and Musks of this world, we should not be misleading young minds into the mistaken belief that such people are our future, that such people exemplify innovation or leadership, no wonder the US is falling behind in terms of literacy and numeracy (we are ranked 125th in fact).

 

Are you saying that visionaries shouldn't get any credit, or that they get too much?

 

Are you saying that visionaries shouldn't get any credit, or that they get too much?

Without defining "visionary" I can't really answer, I've said nothing about "visionaries". My core point is that we are misleading young minds into the mistaken belief that people like Musk or Jobs are examples worthy of our respect. When the general public associate Jobs or Musk with the technologies they exploit then we in fact damage our ability to innovate not enhance it.

The popular label of "genius" often thrown around when discussing Musk is a lie, a blatant and destructive lie. Furthermore as I alluded to, black people, women, do not fare well in Musk owned enterprises, Jobs too was a sexist and abusive bully - are people here really saying we should be encouraging, nurturing these traits in order to develop our nation?

That tolerating racism and chauvinism and bigotry in the workplace is a price "worth paying" in order to innovate and grow our economy? What are black engineers, women engineers to think when we hold up these perverse individuals as examples of geniuses and innovators and visionaries.

 

Lots of blowback from SpaceX's failed launch. Extreme damage to the launch pad may be responsible for failed rocket engines. Somebody didn't do their math...

FAA grounds SpaceX's Starship rockets after explosion minutes into launch - POLITICO

Starship Launch Absolutely Wrecked SpaceX's Facilities, Photos Show
Starship Launch Absolutely Wrecked SpaceX's Facilities, Photos Show (msn.com)

 

Lots of blowback from SpaceX's failed launch. Extreme damage to the launch pad may be responsible for failed rocket engines. Somebody didn't do their math...

FAA grounds SpaceX's Starship rockets after explosion minutes into launch - POLITICO

Starship Launch Absolutely Wrecked SpaceX's Facilities, Photos Show
Starship Launch Absolutely Wrecked SpaceX's Facilities, Photos Show (msn.com)

It looks to me the ship was slow to move off the pad, I was surprised the pad was even there after that launch. It's not the first time the FAA has dropped a letter on SpaceX. That's the cost of pushing the limits.

 

That ship was fighting all the way up. The flight control system reacting to continuing failures while still trying to keep flying was glorious.

My admiration and respect to the team of engineers that worked on guidance and control ... and that right now must be quite busy sifting and filtering all the gathered info so as to make things better and (possibly) succeed the next time

 

I remember first watching the launch with all the dark smoke and thinking "That's looks odd" but didn't expect it to be dirt blown out of the ground. Apparently the "neighbors" aren't too happy with all the fallout from the dust settling on them afterwards. Can't imagine why they didn't take a heads up from NASA about water flooding and thrust diversion. NASA's launch pad has at least 2 water towers surrounding it used to flood the pad during launch which is where most of the "White Smoke" water vapor comes from instead of that nasty cloud SpaceX sent up.

 

I remember first watching the launch with all the dark smoke and thinking "That's looks odd" but didn't expect it to be dirt blown out of the ground. Apparently the "neighbors" aren't too happy with all the fallout from the dust settling on them afterwards. Can't imagine why they didn't take a heads up from NASA about water flooding and thrust diversion. NASA's launch pad has at least 2 water towers surrounding it used to flood the pad during launch which is where most of the "White Smoke" water vapor comes from instead of that nasty cloud SpaceX sent up.

They have private property in the state of Texas. Things are always blowing up there. It's the perfect place for testing rockets.

 

When I was in college, I had a job as an analytical chemist for a lime plant several miles out of town. Open pit limestone mine plus they hard rock mined a seam of pure white crystalline calcite that is used in the formulation of pharmaceuticals. Daily blasting at 5pm, rock crusher, 3 very large pulverized coal and natural gas fired ~15' diameter rotary kilns for limestone, small ~8' diameter kiln for calcite, and a massive rotating ball grinder that pulverized the calcined limestone into lime dust. It generated so much dust that the roof of the bagging warehouse collapsed one night due to accumulation of the lime dust. New general labor hires were given a shovel and pointed to spots in the plant that needed the lime dust dug out. Sweat and quicklime dust reacts and will burn your skin! Even in town on a dewy morning the dew was covered in white dust that left big white spots on the vehicles when it dried. Nobody complained very much as it was a major source of income in the rural county.