Shot In the Back

JoeJester

Joined Apr 26, 2005
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I don't know. What is the appropriate response be for an armed individual with an outstanding warrant who has one less bullet in his possession because he used it to kill a police dog? Were there still people in the walmart?
 

#12

Joined Nov 30, 2010
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That one doesn't look like overkill to me. He's alive, he's shooting, move in.
Now..if he was unconscious, unarmed, and facing the other way, I would say, "Don't shoot him".
 

nsaspook

Joined Aug 27, 2009
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I don't know. What is the appropriate response be for an armed individual with an outstanding warrant who has one less bullet in his possession because he used it to kill a police dog? Were there still people in the walmart?
It was in lock-down for several hours. Good thing it was a Super store with lots of food.

That was one lucky dog, he was shot in the head but it missed anything vital.

The Salem Police canine that was injured in today's incident is Baco. Baco has been treated at an animal hospital and has been released to go home. Baco's handler is Officer Trevor Morrison.
 
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JoeJester

Joined Apr 26, 2005
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Yes it was. I still think the officers responded with enough forces to suppress the threat. Until the threat was squelched, we don't know how many were needed. Afterwards, with the absolute clarity of hindsight, we can provide the best estimate of the force size needed to suppress the threat.
 

#12

Joined Nov 30, 2010
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On the news just now: The most recent unarmed man who died in police custody (in Baltimore) was buried today. Police have not released any information about how he severed his spinal cord while wearing handcuffs. A Baltimore Police Spokesman said today's riots are completely unprovoked.
 

JoeJester

Joined Apr 26, 2005
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And there were riots in Baltimore with the rioters puncturing holes in the fire hose to prevent the firemen from extinguishing a fire.
 

nsaspook

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nsaspook

Joined Aug 27, 2009
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I disagree with that part of your statement. If you think riots happen for no reason at all on the day another unarmed dead man is buried, you are as blind as the police.
I've been in protest for wrongs in the 1960's, we didn't throw rocks at the police, loot, steal and burn down property. Those that did were criminals in a riot, period. People like the mom in the video know the difference
and others have to cleanup the mess.
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JoeJester

Joined Apr 26, 2005
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Ya' got to love that MOM.

Some media has state it was started via social media calling it "purge" like the movie of a few years back where once a year, lawlessness rules.

I'm thinking that MOM had a better idea.
 

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Metalmann

Joined Dec 8, 2012
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Too many people in this once, great, Country.......are now too busy to protest, like the olden days.
Look at how many Americans, bad-mouth other protesters, today.
Americans had their big chance to instill change, but they were too damn lazy to participate in OWS.
Time for Americans to prioratize their priorities.

Yeah, I just made up that word!
 

#12

Joined Nov 30, 2010
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I've been in protest for wrongs in the 1960's, we didn't throw rocks at the police, loot, steal and burn down property. Those that did were criminals in a riot, period.
Logical fallacy: If civil unrest happens in an unlawful way, it can't possibly have any connection to the stated reason for protesting. Therefore, if one overzealous person on either side breaks a law, there is no cause for the protest, no perceived injustice, and nothing needs to be changed. Outrage raised to violent levels was not caused by anything.
 

JoeJester

Joined Apr 26, 2005
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occupy wall street ... what was their message?

Wasn't it part of the anti-consumerism socio-political actions by Adbuster in Canada?

It's funny how politics is embedded, in all social endeavors.
 

nsaspook

Joined Aug 27, 2009
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Logical fallacy: If civil unrest happens in an unlawful way, it can't possibly have any connection to the stated reason for protesting. Therefore, if one overzealous person on either side breaks a law, there is no cause for the protest, no perceived injustice, and nothing needs to be changed. Outrage raised to violent levels was not caused by anything.
That's complete psychobabble. Violence is effective where Violence is warranted both by the police and people feeling injustice from the police. It was not in the case of this riot so people who were protesting the police are now protesting the riot.
 

#12

Joined Nov 30, 2010
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That's complete psychobabble. Violence is effective where Violence is warranted both by the police and people feeling injustice from the police. It was not in the case of this riot so people who were protesting the police are now protesting the riot.
Ok. I see it now. This was just a normal, "Riot Day" and people die in custody so often that the two must eventually coincide. Unfortunate. :(

ps, I agree that post #134 was a load of BS. That's why I labeled it, "Logical Fallacy".
 

shortbus

Joined Sep 30, 2009
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Unless you grew up in 'the hood' you can't judge the protesters. Until junior year of high school I did. Cops would stop my dark skinned friends and tell me to keep walking, though we weren't doing anything wrong. If all this police violence is not racial, how do you explain this? (spoiler alert, white suspect) Think it would have been different if he wasn't?
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/crime-c...dly-force-i-wanted-be-absolutely-sure-n344011
 
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