Setting up this alternator

Discussion in 'General Electronics Chat' started by Xavier Pacheco Paulino, Sep 19, 2018.

  1. Xavier Pacheco Paulino

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    Hello,

    I have this old alternator, which I'm trying to setup for an exercise bike. Previously, I had worked with a kind of different alternator, although the operating principle is the same, it confuses me a little bit. Below you can see the alternator, its nameplate, and a 0.5 ohms/100 watts power resistor. In the yellow circle you can see the alternator's pins functions: B+, tach, GND, and FLD (field). When pedalling, I should expect a voltage between B+ and GND, right? Because I see nothing when I measure it. Also, the resistor should be connected between B+ and GND? And how can I vary the strenght of the field through the FLD pin? In other alternators, I've seen two pins for the field. In this case, should I vary the voltage between FLD pin and GND (ground) ?



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  2. MaxHeadRoom

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    If the field winding is brought out it looks to me as though the regulator is missing, you can make one with a LM311 or similar. Unless you can get the correct one from a wrecker, BTW typically you need a initial voltage as most auto alternators are not self exciting.
    Max.
     
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  3. Xavier Pacheco Paulino

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    My confusion is more about the wiring. This is what I think:

    1- Power resistor between B+ and GND.
    2- Regulator between FLD and GND
    3- The tach signal might no be of interest

    Am I right?
     
  4. Dodgydave

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    You need to apply 12v to the Field Terminal and gnd, to excite the alternator, then when peddaling you will get an output at the B+ and gnd.

    You will need the regulator or have to make one, to maintain 14V output.
     
  5. Xavier Pacheco Paulino

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    Ok. So, the power resistor is just to provide a path for the generated energy at B+, right? Can I PWM between Field and GND to vary the strength when pedalling?
     
  6. MaxHeadRoom

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    The simplest is the comparitor with an input pot for the regulated output voltage as needed.
    Max.
     
  7. Xavier Pacheco Paulino

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    If measure the field effective resistance, I get 5 ohms. At 12V, this is 2.4A. This means I need like a 3A supply for this setup?
    I will check the LM311 that you suggest.
     
  8. MaxHeadRoom

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    I actually made one for a 230vdc generator, you could adapt this version of it as needed.
    You need an initial voltage after that it is self sustaining.
    Max.
     
  9. debe

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    This is a Bosch altenator regulator circuit that will work with that altenator. Or ateratively buy a RE55 reg, or find one in the wreckers. BOSCH RE55 REG.jpg
     
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