Resistor replacement

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spike1947

Joined Feb 4, 2016
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Take this for what it's worth or not worth. Resistors just don't fail and when we see a cooked resistor what we see is generally just a symptom and not a cause. The question then begs why did a resistor have excessive current causing it to fail? Then we can add if I replace a 1/2 Watt resistor with a 3 Watt what will happen to whatever caused the initial failure? There is a very good possibility that you replace the cooked resistors and promptly have more cooked resistors.

Ron
No the resistors are ok at the moment, I am changing all the speed control components on the board , 2x Capacitors , 1x Triac, 2x Resistors , they are quite old , I don't want to spend time and money replacing the other items and leave the old resistors in place .
PS: The pics shown , are one of the legs of the Resistor and one leg of the Capacitor de-oldered by me , they are not burnt in any way .

Spike
 

jpanhalt

Joined Jan 18, 2008
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Edit #1: Just saw response #21
Still no response about what's wrong with the resistor.

The wire to the 56R resistor looks vaporized but no damage to the resistor. Copper boils at 2565°C (4643°F). That looks more like electric arc damage. If so, any 1.8 V IC may also be damaged. ;)

Edit #2: Preventive maintenance on PCB's because they are "old" is a myth. Resistors don't go bad. Moreover, the TS is probably more likely to introduce damage rather than prevent further "degradation" over the next 50 years or so.
 

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spike1947

Joined Feb 4, 2016
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No the resistors are ok at the moment, I am changing all the speed control components on the board , 2x Capacitors , 1x Triac, 2x Resistors , they are quite old , I don't want to spend time and money replacing the other items and leave the old resistors in place .
PS: The pics shown , are one of the legs of the Resistor and one leg of the Capacitor de-oldered by me , they are not burnt in any way .

Spike
 

Reloadron

Joined Jan 15, 2015
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No the resistors are ok at the moment, I am changing all the speed control components on the board , 2x Capacitors , 1x Triac, 2x Resistors , they are quite old , I don't want to spend time and money replacing the other items and leave the old resistors in place .
PS: The pics shown , are one of the legs of the Resistor and one leg of the Capacitor de-oldered by me , they are not burnt in any way .

Spike
Then yes and have at it for your application. :)

Ron
 

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spike1947

Joined Feb 4, 2016
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Edit #1: Just saw response #21
Still no response about what's wrong with the resistor.

The wire to the 56R resistor looks vaporized but no damage to the resistor. Copper boils at 2565°C (4643°F). That looks more like electric arc damage. If so, any 1.8 V IC may also be damaged. ;)

Edit #2: Preventive maintenance on PCB's because they are "old" is a myth. Resistors don't go bad. Moreover, the TS is probably more likely to introduce damage rather than prevent further "degradation" over the next 50 years or so.
The machine does not work , just replacing them to see if it will , I thought best to change them all in one go !
 

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spike1947

Joined Feb 4, 2016
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Then why did you post your query here. Just do it, and see if the problem is fixed.
Because I was wanting a answer to my my original question , which I am still unsure if I have had it , that is all I wanted from you good people , if you want to go on talking about it , and not giving me the answer to my question we will end up with 34 replies !
 

WBahn

Joined Mar 31, 2012
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You have been told by several people that it almost certainly is just fine. You cannot expect an absolute guarantee of that based on the information you have provided because we don't even know what that resistor is used for in the circuit.

What if that circuit uses the temperature from the resistor to trip some part of the circuit? Replacing the resistor with a higher rated one will result in the surface temperature of the resistor being lower and that could affect how the circuit operates. Is that likely? No, not likely at all. But is it possible? Yes.
 

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spike1947

Joined Feb 4, 2016
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You have been told by several people that it almost certainly is just fine. You cannot expect an absolute guarantee of that based on the information you have provided because we don't even know what that resistor is used for in the circuit.

What if that circuit uses the temperature from the resistor to trip some part of the circuit? Replacing the resistor with a higher rated one will result in the surface temperature of the resistor being lower and that could affect how the circuit operates. Is that likely? No, not likely at all. But is it possible? Yes.
Yes you are absolutely correct , I tried to find a drawing for it , but no luck, will just have to take the chance , thanks anyway for all the replies, it was a interesting discussion for me , as again from this site have learned something .
Spike
 

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spike1947

Joined Feb 4, 2016
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I know we are up to post #37 , but does this make sense for the 56Ω Resistor :
It is important that the 56 ohm resistor has good pulse rating. Metal film resistors will fail in this location. It is a snubber resistor and is subjected to high pulse current. Even if power rating is ok.

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Spike
 

dl324

Joined Mar 30, 2015
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I know we are up to post #37 , but does this make sense for the 56Ω Resistor :
It is important that the 56 ohm resistor has good pulse rating. Metal film resistors will fail in this location. It is a snubber resistor and is subjected to high pulse current. Even if power rating is ok.
Film resistors are the worst choice for this capability. Carbon composition is the best in this case.
 
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