Remote control for a lamp - blinks but does not turn off

Tonyr1084

Joined Sep 24, 2015
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@bertus from where are you getting the PS information? Only things I see on the white box is OUT and IN.

@N0t_S0_Sm4rt Something I don't recall anyone asking - - - your remote unit - is it designed to switch from ON to OFF and from OFF to ON? Or is it designed to switch ONLY while the button is pressed and held?

Hope you slept well.

[edit] While you were sleeping I searched Amazon and found this. It looks an awful lot like yours. Some very minor differences, but from what I've read you can configure it to operate as follows: Press and Hold button A - (in your case) the light comes on. Release button A and the light goes off. Just as you describe yours is doing - well exact opposite. You can reconfigure it by resetting the jumpers (if yours has them) so that it will "Toggle" between ON and OFF every time you press button A. There's a third configuration with the jumpers where button A turns something ON and button B turns it OFF.

Also, from what I've read it appears button B can control power between the V- and the NC terminals.

Look at all the pictures involved. Should give you a better idea how to use your system. As for the reason why you had flashing - could be due to the jumper configuration and possibly the B button. For now I will assume you successfully paired your remote with the control board.
 
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BobTPH

Joined Jun 5, 2013
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Hello,

Looking at the picture, it seems to be an "electronic transformer", as there is stated 12 Volts 20-60 watts, intended to be used with led lamps.
That will have likely a current limiting circuit inside.
As said, the halogen bulb will have a MUCH lower resistance at startup.
This will trigger the current limiting circuit in the "electronic transformer" and that will blink.

Bertus
Except that he said it goes when the circuit is powered and only blinks when he presses the button on the remote.

Bob
 

BobTPH

Joined Jun 5, 2013
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I have another idea.

You have stated what happens when you press and hold the remote (it blinks). But what happens if you just do a quick press and release of the button?

It might be that the board toggles the output when it detects the button press and the ignores the input for a short time to avoid toggling again. If that is the case, holding the button will cause the exact behavior you are seeing, and a quick press will do what you want!

Bob
 

Tonyr1084

Joined Sep 24, 2015
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@BobTPH If the board is anything like what I've found in Amazon then there are three settings possible. One is to turn something on ONLY when holding the button. (or turn it off while holding the button). Another mode is to turn it ON with one click of the A button and OFF with a second click of the A button. The third mode is to turn something ON with the A button and OFF with the B button.

If he's set up to use the A button in the toggle mode I'm wondering if the remote battery might be weak. Strong enough to send a signal then too weak to continue. The remote rests for a second (generally speaking) then try again.

A bit far fetched. But from what I've found it's the only thing I can think of that would cause that behavior. UNLESS the receiver/relay board is bad.
 

BobTPH

Joined Jun 5, 2013
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If it toggles, then ignores the input for 1 second it would blink if you hold the button down since it would immediately toggle again after each 1 second delay.

Bob
 

Tonyr1084

Joined Sep 24, 2015
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Keep in mind the way the TS had it wired, the light would be ON at power-up. So IF - and that's a big if - IF the transmitter sends a signal while the board is set to be ON only while the button is depressed then the light would go out. IF the transmitter battery is weak and stops transmitting then the (effective) OFF signal would be lost and the light would come back ON. Then the transmitter, which shut down, comes back on one second later, it would shut the light OFF again, thus, the blinking.

To be straight up - I'd need to see with my own eyes AND my own hands, as well as put test equipment to it to determine why it is flashing. We also need to see (if there are) jumper settings. Since the unit I've linked to is slightly different, only similar in nature, I can't be sure of anything. Eyes and Hands are necessary to diagnose the problem. Unless the TS is able to provide us with the information as we ask for it - the way we need it - so we can understand it. The answer is very likely a simple answer. And maybe since I don't any responses from the TS, maybe he's solved the problem. Maybe he found one of those silly mistakes that none of us like to admit to. Until we can see, smell, taste and touch more - vicariously - I think we can spend the next few weeks guessing and arguing over what the diagnosis is.

@N0t_S0_Sm4rt we're going to need some help from you. We're willing. Don't be afraid of "stupid" questions, we've all had them at some point. The only Truly "stupid" thing is to not ask when you don't know. We're here to help. Not make fun of others.
 

MisterBill2

Joined Jan 23, 2018
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I am guessing that one of the problems is that the supply voltage drops when the lamp switches on. So the fist step is to have a voltmeter monitoring the supply voltage at the controller terminals. and then also substitute a much lower powered indicator. In fact, just try it first without an indicator to see if the thing is actually switching. If it switches correctly then the problem is from adding the light. Then let us know about that.
 

Tonyr1084

Joined Sep 24, 2015
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@MisterBill2 BobTPH said:
The fact that the light comes on just fine when powered up eliminates the conjecture that the power supply is underpowered. That is why I think the relay is shorting it and causing the blinking.

Bob
I still suspect there may be a jumper setting on the TS board. Also suspect possible mis-wiring. Since the TS is using the NC terminal, I'm wondering if the board is being powered through that point so that when activated the NC terminal goes open and the board fails. Once failed, the relay drops back and provides power again, causing the light to blink, but remain on when no action is being taken.

To be bluntly honest, we need to see a better picture of the board and to be able to trace things out EXACTLY as they are hooked up. The photo shown at the opening of this thread appears to be correctly wired except for the use of the NC terminal. But I'm not seeing much from the TS on how things are progressing. Either the problem has been solved, a simple mistake may have been uncovered, or the TS is no longer interested in getting help for this issue.

At this point I think I'm going to stop following this thread. Without further participation from the TS I don't see how we can continue to do anything more than guess. And a guess and a lottery ticket are just about the same odds for being right. (my opinion)
 

Tonyr1084

Joined Sep 24, 2015
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Here's my bottom line:
The light comes on and stays on. Not a power supply issue.
The setup appears to be correct, except for a slight mis-wiring of the relay (using the NC instead of the NO).
Information on the board - seriously lacking.
The system, regardless of wiring (NC or NO), is not functioning properly.

Conclusion: The board is faulty.

Y'all have a good day.
 
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