power supply advice

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mart_1986

Joined Dec 11, 2009
7
hi there

i want to make a 12v 3amp power supply i have a transformer at 12v 50va what sort of regulator and circuit will i need

thanks for the advice
 

t06afre

Joined May 11, 2009
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If your transformer output 12 volt RMS you must use a low drop-out regulator. And also a large filter capacitor say 10000uF or more. But still under full load my quick calculations tells me that your regulator will most probably drop out. You should get a transformer with a slightly higher voltage output.
 

SgtWookie

Joined Jul 17, 2007
22,230
You will need a so-called "low dropout" regulator. An LM338 is not low dropout. With a current of 3A output, the regulator will drop out about 2.2v to 2.6v, depending upon the temperature of the regulator.

You will need at least 11,000uF for the filter capacitors (C1, C2) but up to 15,000uF would be better.

[eta]
Here are two candidate regulators for you that are stocked by RS Components in the UK:
3A,12V,LDO Voltage Regulator,LM1085IT-12:
http://uk.rs-online.com/web/search/searchBrowseAction.html?method=getProduct&R=5339381
The datasheet for the LM1085 is here: http://cache.national.com/ds/LM/LM1085.pdf
It has a 1.5v dropout at full load; not wonderful, but better than the LM338.

3.0A LDO Fixed Volt,MIC29300-12WT:
http://uk.rs-online.com/web/search/searchBrowseAction.html?method=getProduct&R=0453568
The above Micrel regulator has only 350mV dropout at full load, which is very good. Well worth the few extra pence.
 
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SgtWookie

Joined Jul 17, 2007
22,230
my transformer has 2 x12 output will this split the amps to 2amps per output if so will it best to have to separate circuits for each output i need it to run 5x0.25 amp 120mm computer fans


i found this circuit instead of using the lm7912 i could change it to lm7812 http://skema-rangkaian-elektronika.blogspot.com/2009/09/ic-7812-dual-regulator-power-supply.html
You edited your post while I was adding to mine.

t06afre suggested that you do not need a regulated supply for fans. While this is largely true, if you are operating five 250mA fans for a total load of 1.25A from a 12v 50VA transformer and bridge rectifier, your light load on the output will result in the fans getting a lot more voltage than you expected.

They will move a lot of air, but they will be operating above their normal operating voltage. They will be very noisy, and burn up quickly.

[eta]
The real question is, will you be wanting to add speed control at a later time? If so, having a regulated 12v available will give you a good starting foundation.
 

SgtWookie

Joined Jul 17, 2007
22,230
my transformer has 2 x12 output
Tell us more about your transformer.

It has a single primary winding, correct?
You know that you will need to use a fuse in the supply from the mains power, right? I suggest using a fuse rated for 1A of a slow blow type.

Do you have a datasheet for your transformer? If so, would you please post it?
If you don't have a datasheet, can you post a link to the model you bought, or at least give us a manufacturer and model number?
 

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mart_1986

Joined Dec 11, 2009
7
Tell us more about your transformer.

It has a single primary winding, correct?
You know that you will need to use a fuse in the supply from the mains power, right? I suggest using a fuse rated for 1A of a slow blow type.

Do you have a datasheet for your transformer? If so, would you please post it?
If you don't have a datasheet, can you post a link to the model you bought, or at least give us a manufacturer and model number?
this is all i have http://www.rapidonline.com/Electric...s/Chassis-mount-transformers/72692/kw/88-3440
 

mik3

Joined Feb 4, 2008
4,843
With a bridge rectifier the needed smoothing capacitor is 18.7 mF if you assume that the regulator will drop 2V across it. I suggest you to buy a transformer which outputs 16V. This will reduce the value of the smoothing capacitor and the inrush current at power up. You may need an inrush currents limiting resistor at power up as not to blow the bridge rectifier. After the smoothing capacitor has charged up you can bypass this resistor with a switch.
 
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