Need help with wiring an electric motor.

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kisuke47

Joined Feb 27, 2018
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Hi I'm new to these forums and hope to get some help I have an old baldor motor I would like to wire up its a single phase ac motor I'm trying to wire it for 115 volts it has a wiring diagram on the motor it says connect wires 1 3 8 and wires 2 J 5 which I have already done each of the wires are in there respective groups connected with wire nuts in the pictures I have them up and out of the way so you can see better so my question is where do I connect my positive and negative wires too from my power cord? and what do I do with the number 4 wire that's just hanging there? any help would be great thanks.
 

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Reloadron

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This would go better with a decent picture. My guess is 1-3-8 and 2-4-5 I have no idea where you get a J wire? Also this is an AC motor single phase I assume so there is no positive and negative. You have a L1 and L2 which is the AC line and if all of this is true L1 and L2 are Hot and Neutral and it doesn't matter which is which. You swap 5 and 8 to change rotation.

Would this be what you have?
Baldor Motor Wiring.png

What I posted is based on the above image.

Ron
 

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kisuke47

Joined Feb 27, 2018
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Hi that was the best picture I could take with my crappy camera so here is another pic but I have labeled the numbers so you can get a better guess and yes it does have a J one of the reasons I am confused.
 

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Reloadron

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When I have see J used there are often two J wires and they run to a thermal switch. Keeping that in mind is this what you have?
Baldor 2.png

In this case 1 - 8- 3 are connected and go to Line, 2 - 5- J are just joined and 4 goes to lineSwapping % & 8 gets rotation reversed. Does this look like what you have?

Ron
 

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kisuke47

Joined Feb 27, 2018
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Yes that is exactly what I have but I'm still confused I have 1 8 3 connected to each other and 2 J 5 connected to each other and I know switching 5 and 8 change rotation of the motor but what do you mean 4 goes to line swapping? and where do I connect my hot and neutral wires too? do I connect the hot wire to group 1 8 3 and the neutral to group 2 J 5.
 

Reloadron

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Well now we have the right drawing. Yes, #1, #8 and #3 are tied together and to one side of the AC line. Then #4 is tied to the other side of the AC line. Then J, #5 and #2 are simply tied together. If you wish to reverse directional rotation you simply swap #5 and #8.

Ron
 

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kisuke47

Joined Feb 27, 2018
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Thanks for the help guys hooked it up and runs fine even after its been sitting for over 20 years I did have to replace the capacitors though.
 

Shanj

Joined Feb 20, 2019
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I'm in the same boat,I have a universal motor,115 volt motor with 3 wires,red, blue and yellow.anyoone have any idea what each wire does
 

MaxHeadRoom

Joined Jul 18, 2013
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I'm in the same boat,I have a universal motor,115 volt motor with 3 wires,red, blue and yellow.anyoone have any idea what each wire does
By Universal motor is this a brushed series wound motor as the description implies?
If so, there is normally only two conductors.
Max.
 

shortbus

Joined Sep 30, 2009
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How do I tell what each wire does, when I opened it up, it looks like all three go to the windings
Can you give a make and model number of the motor? A "universal" motor is one that has brushes and can run on AC or DC, is this what you have? Or is 'universal' the brand name?
 

Shanj

Joined Feb 20, 2019
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Can you give a make and model number of the motor? A "universal" motor is one that has brushes and can run on AC or DC, is this what you have? Or is 'universal' the brand name?
It is from universal electric company.ser 9pa 8678a,mod.de3go85k,115 v,60hz,3.6 a,1050 rpm,#120102, thermal protected.sorry,but for some reason it won't let me download a picture
 

Shanj

Joined Feb 20, 2019
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Sorry,b but for some reason it won't let me download a picture, the info on the tag says, universal electric company.ser 9pa8678a,mod.de3go85k,115 v 3.6 a,1050 rpm,# 120102, thermal protected
 

MaxHeadRoom

Joined Jul 18, 2013
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Sounds like a 6 pole induction motor, Permanent Start Cap (PSC) motor.
Does it have a capacitor?
Universal Electric Motor co is a Canadian Co.
Can you measure resistance between all three conductor s
Max.
 

Shanj

Joined Feb 20, 2019
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Sounds like a 6 pole induction motor, Permanent Start Cap (PSC) motor.
Does it have a capacitor?
Universal Electric Motor co is a Canadian Co.
Can you measure resistance between all three conductor s
Max.
I will have to measure it, there is no capacitor, just three wires,red, blue and yellow.
 
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