Need help to light up 8 LEDs with different color

Bernard

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Might try adding a 47Ω, give or take, between "SP" buck & TB2-1 to simulate internal res. of SP. Also, when in "charge", what is V drop across R21, to see if were really charging.[/QUOTE]
Now we need to help jenovauh to get his ckt to work. I think there may we a wiring error around BR1.
 

tracecom

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Might try adding a 47Ω, give or take, between "SP" buck & TB2-1 to simulate internal res. of SP. Also, when in "charge", what is V drop across R21, to see if were really charging.

What wattage for the 47Ω? I am using 2W to represent the LED load; will that be sufficient here?

Should the wire to TB6-1 be connected before or after the 47Ω?

Thanks.
 
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Bernard

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Let's assume 300 ma from "SP", then W=4, guess that happens in the SP but disipation is spread out over several sq ft. All connections should be after; the 47Ω from TB1-1 to first dot.
 

tracecom

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Let's assume 300 ma from "SP", then W=4, guess that happens in the SP but disipation is spread out over several sq ft. All connections should be after; the 47Ω from TB1-1 to first dot.
Installed 47Ω resistor at TB1-1 and adjusted SP output to be 14.00V at TB1-1; after the 47Ω resistor, voltage is 11.15V. LED on 100Ω load is very dim. DA is lit, DC is lit, DD is off. Voltage across R19 = .047V.

Before your last post, I already made up the 47Ω resistor from 11 pieces of 560 ohm 1/4watt resistors, so it is effectively 2.75 watts. It got hot in the time it took me to write this post. Disconnected solar panel output.
 

tracecom

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After all these testing and checking, what do I need to do?
I don't know what you should do. Just wait and see what Bernard says. I am not sure if my assembly is working correctly or not.

@ Bernard,

I had a connection wrong, which was the cause of the LED across the 100Ω load being dim. I have corrected that and LED is at normal brightness.

Installed 47Ω resistor at TB1-1 and adjusted SP output to be 14.00V at TB1-1; after the 47Ω resistor, voltage is 2.84V. (The 47Ω resistor gets quite hot to the touch very quickly, but is not smoking or discoloring, so I suppose it's okay.) DA is lit dimly, DC and DD are off. Voltage across R19 = .014V. If I disconnect the 100Ω load, DC comes on dimly and voltage at TB2-1 rises from 2.84V to 12.52V.

Do you think I have something wired incorrectly?
 

Bernard

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With DA dim, sounds like Day-Night is oscillating, most likley charging is drawing a slug of pulsed current, which would make V readings unrelyable. Might try adding 100 μF from R19-1, 1k, to gnd. Without charging, 47 Ω should disipate about 350 mW. Could disable Q4 temp. by shorting gate to source & see how rest of ckt behaves. Will be back later.
 

tracecom

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#430, when DA does not come on, is TB2-1 above 4 V ? Maybe we could tame charging a bit by changing R21 to 10Ω, 1W.
No, I mean as I am connecting the alligator clip from TB1-1 to R19-2, and I bump the clip to R19-2, sometimes DA lights and sometimes it does not. So, I clip it on and if DA comes on I leave it, and if not, I take the clip off and try again.

ETA: I will be away from the computer for a day or two.
 
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Bernard

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jenovauh, while tracecom is away, & you wish to ballance LED currents, here is a simple jig to measure Vf's of all LED's.For test contacts, tape 2 paper clips to edge of table with just enough spacing between them to slide in a LED. If wrong guess on polarity, blue will stay on red off, reverse & blue goes out .red on; note V & put in proper pile. When I have several sttings of seriesed LEDs, I set up 5 or 6 piles with Vf's 1/10 V increase with each pile, 2.3, 2.4. 2.5 etc. Match low V with high V to give close to 3 X average Vf. To measure blue LED's, replace blue in test jig with two red's in series.
 

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jenovauh

Joined Jul 4, 2013
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Yes thanks Bernard, I was going to get all my LEDs and measure all their individual forward voltage too. Cause I can see that not all LEDs lite up with the same brightness as well. :)
 

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jenovauh

Joined Jul 4, 2013
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Hi Bernard, one question to ask while tracecom is away. I had some 1W Red and blue LEDs @350mA. With the current LEDs circuit design we had, if I wants to replace them with 1W LEDs, which part do I need to replace? Thanks.
 

Bernard

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How many 1 W red's & how many ! W blue's? 555 might stay the same but I would go back to using 2 pots for duty cycle & period, maybe add another 555 to split red from blue to even out current flow a bit.
 

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jenovauh

Joined Jul 4, 2013
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I was thinking of using 2 strings of 3 pieces 1W red and 2 strings of 2 pieces 1W blue.

The 2 pot to control duty cyle I can understand. But period in electronic term stand for?

Do I need to also change the transistor as each LEDs will be drawing about 300mA of current? How to add a 555 timer to even out the current flow. Thanks
 
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