Both the generator set and the solar cells array cost quite a bit and take up a lot of space. Swapping charger and computer on one battery have zero additional cost.

Can't OP using a cheap solar panel ?, I was try to modify Philips lamp that have built-in solar panel and use it for my laptop and its successfully only cost around $100, I forgot its model but its Philips lamp, and its have 24v DC output, so just add simple DC step down will do the job in my case I step it down to 18v DC

like this
https://www.lighting.philips.com/pr...aire-floodlights-solar/LP_CF_BVP085_EU/family

 

Can't OP using a cheap solar panel ?, I was try to modify Philips lamp that have built-in solar panel and use it for my laptop and its successfully only cost around $100, I forgot its model but its Philips lamp, and its have 24v DC output, so just add simple DC step down will do the job in my case I step it down to 18v DC

like this
https://www.lighting.philips.com/pr...aire-floodlights-solar/LP_CF_BVP085_EU/family

What do you think @MisterBill2 ?

 

If the laptop is not grounded then you have avoided the possibility of one sort of problem, because current usually does not flow where there is no circuit. So a voltage transient between the mains pair and ground will have no path to take.
The one exception is with a direct lightning hit. in that case all bets are off, because several hundred thousand volts at a few thousand amps will go wherever it wants.

this fujitsu has no grounding prong, the MSI gaming laptop currently in the atlantic does have 3 prongs in the power cable, i apologize if that wasnt clear

 

If you get a regular purse sine wave UPS, be sure it detects frequency issues and common mode voltage issues. I'm not sure if all UPS will do these.

the PFC puresine by cyberpower should do that no ?

for 200$usd, it damn well better

 

Can't OP using a cheap solar panel ?, I was try to modify Philips lamp that have built-in solar panel and use it for my laptop and its successfully only cost around $100, I forgot its model but its Philips lamp, and its have 24v DC output, so just add simple DC step down will do the job in my case I step it down to 18v DC

like this
https://www.lighting.philips.com/pr...aire-floodlights-solar/LP_CF_BVP085_EU/family

im guessung that i am OP ??? aww you are making me blush.... i currently have 5 solar panels on the roof.. and they are currently producing, let me check.... 32.3 watts... at 0930 .... lets just say that China doesn't exactly ship its best stuff to the Philippines... and to be comfortable id need a minimum of 250 watts and i saw that figure on the solar watt meter once.... but Philippines has a "rainy" season which is.. now... and it looks nearly bleak outside as Montreal during its winter, minus the snow and ice and frost giants

 

Why not suggest to use motor generator set instead or even own electrical source like solar panel that is completely isolated ?
My house radio system and weather station system is all powered by online UPS and its AC source the powered using motor generator set to the utility source also generator set for backup using automated transfer switch and its DC source not only connected to battery but also connected to solar panel MPPT output not to forget all its data and communication line is also completely isolated as I use fiber converter to connect it

Also never forget suggest OP to use ethernet protector or such if he use ethernet or wired internet connection, I will prefer fiber converter as its completely isolated it electronically and usually cost less then high quality ethernet protector

By the way my setup above is really resilient to direct lighting strike and that was happen only a server with radio equipment got burnt all other part of building is completely fine

Also I now invent and using more robust system, for antenna plug and weather station sensor connector I tied and screwed all those plugs to a CNC stepper motor and its antenna plug and weather station sensor plug will got decoupled/unplugged mechanically automatically by those CNC stepper motor coordinated with a lightning counter sensor, and those system itself use separated battery and solar panel to charged it

a great i;dea.. however i;d need a better solar panel, bigger in fact, i saw a 320 watt for 5000 php i;n a local store, id need to replace my mppt replace the bosco dc to ac inverter for a scary chinese looking inverter.. and all i;t says is "pure sine wave inverter" and the rest is i;n mandarin.. yes i could order an osciloscope to visually see the wave length.. but that is another 1000 php so since my msi laptop is currntly in the Atlantic, im going with the simplest approach.. the 200$ cyberpower PFC puresine UPS.. im only here to see if there is any additonal advice or suggestions
or a cheaper approach

 

i understand that some of you may feel that because im from the great white north that i am blazingly wealthy but we are not exempt from the same economic crisis that you are all going through.. furthermore, Canada is a socialist country, i know i heard a few of your buttholes pucker up there in USA.. but i never paid for hospital or medication since birth... so deciding to stay in a "capitalist republic" is a huge change for me... i dint plan a vacation here, i was deployed to the Philippines in response to the Chinese aggression last year (50 Chinese ships in umm recto bay??) i simply told myself that i will stay because 1, i want to be closer to my 10 year old daughter.. and 2 the women here are absolutely gorgeous.. so dont be shocked if i say that i only have 1$ to my name at this very moment, my income comes in 8-9 days and i will place an order for the cyber power PFC puresine UPS

please see attached photo

 

If

im guessung that i am OP ??? aww you are making me blush.... i currently have 5 solar panels on the roof.. and they are currently producing, let me check.... 32.3 watts... at 0930 .... lets just say that China doesn't exactly ship its best stuff to the Philippines... and to be comfortable id need a minimum of 250 watts and i saw that figure on the solar watt meter once.... but Philippines has a "rainy" season which is.. now... and it looks nearly bleak outside as Montreal during its winter, minus the snow and ice and frost giants

if that is the case, then just plug your computer to your solar panel system, and if can, separate solar panel system completely from the utility electrical supply, you will get a great enough electrical system, but using an online pure sine wave with it still a great idea as there is another risk, your inverter from solar panel is not good enough, but you can fix it by connecting UPS battery/DC input to solar panel directly so no inverter needs, and in this case online UPS itself act as an inverter and more good idea you can bought APC online UPS which is quality really great

 

i understand that some of you may feel that because im from the great white north that i am blazingly wealthy but we are not exempt from the same economic crisis that you are all going through.. furthermore, Canada is a socialist country, i know i heard a few of your buttholes pucker up there in USA.. but i never paid for hospital or medication since birth... so deciding to stay in a "capitalist republic" is a huge change for me... i dint plan a vacation here, i was deployed to the Philippines in response to the Chinese aggression last year (50 Chinese ships in umm recto bay??) i simply told myself that i will stay because 1, i want to be closer to my 10 year old daughter.. and 2 the women here are absolutely gorgeous.. so dont be shocked if i say that i only have 1$ to my name at this very moment, my income comes in 8-9 days and i will place an order for the cyber power PFC puresine UPS

please see attached photo

Warning
You must ensure its online UPS in order to modify it as an inverter, because if you modify line interactive UPS its will risk overloaded and get burnt, online UPS system is always using its internal inverter continuously even when no blackout/or power problem and have works like this (AC Input usually utility -> DC Rectifier and Battery nor DC input -> AC Inverter), so you can connect it DC input directly to those online UPS from your solar panel battery and use it as inverter that way, line interactive UPS is slightly difference they only use its inverter when its in battery mode whether its because blackout or bad power quality, so line interactive UPS internal inverter is usually not designed to be used continuously and you risk get overheat using it as an inverter except you modify its, using more fan, heatsink and more, probably even replace its internal components like capacitor which is not great idea to work with if you are not an experienced in that field

 

I saw that advertizement and that is why I do not consider a solar panel, ESPECIALLY from that source. Not for that price, not even for $200 (USD).

 

Warning
You must ensure its online UPS in order to modify it as an inverter, because if you modify line interactive UPS its will risk overloaded and get burnt, online UPS system is always using its internal inverter continuously even when no blackout/or power problem and have works like this (AC Input usually utility -> DC Rectifier and Battery nor DC input -> AC Inverter), so you can connect it DC input directly to those online UPS from your solar panel battery and use it as inverter that way, line interactive UPS is slightly difference they only use its inverter when its in battery mode whether its because blackout or bad power quality, so line interactive UPS internal inverter is usually not designed to be used continuously and you risk get overheat using it as an inverter except you modify its, using more fan, heatsink and more, probably even replace its internal components like capacitor which is not great idea to work with if you are not an experienced in that field

sent a msg to seller and asked if it is a online or interactive ups

 

sent a msg to seller and asked if it is a online or interactive ups

You can find it in their official document

 

Warning
You must ensure its online UPS in order to modify it as an inverter, because if you modify line interactive UPS its will risk overloaded and get burnt, online UPS system is always using its internal inverter continuously even when no blackout/or power problem and have works like this (AC Input usually utility -> DC Rectifier and Battery nor DC input -> AC Inverter), so you can connect it DC input directly to those online UPS from your solar panel battery and use it as inverter that way, line interactive UPS is slightly difference they only use its inverter when its in battery mode whether its because blackout or bad power quality, so line interactive UPS internal inverter is usually not designed to be used continuously and you risk get overheat using it as an inverter except you modify its, using more fan, heatsink and more, probably even replace its internal components like capacitor which is not great idea to work with if you are not an experienced in that field

You can find it in their official document

i did google that model number CP1001etc... but i havent seen any mention of online or otherwise

 

i did google that model number CP1001etc... but i havent seen any mention of online or otherwise

No official document really ?, if that's the case its likely either is not a good UPS or you can't search it
What UPS do you have or plan to buy ?

 

No official document really ?, if that's the case its likely either is not a good UPS or you can't search it
What UPS do you have or plan to buy ?

at the moment im using INTEX IT-725A

for MY gaming laptop currently making its way to me via Canadapost and other services i will be using the cyberpower PFC puresine model linked a few posts above... CPsomething

 

No official document really ?, if that's the case its likely either is not a good UPS or you can't search it
What UPS do you have or plan to buy ?

with my current expenses and disasters happening left, right and center.. 11,500 + shipping slides into my budget perfectly.. and im not certain what country cyber power is from but i cannot find APC pure sine wave inverter anywhere... ..isit ossible that it is a China clone of cyberpower.. ive seen China begin to clone Canasdian clothing even.. so naturally i snatched up a "north face backpack"

is there a way to find out the REAL sales cost of said UPS ???

 

Seller wrote this to me

"Hello! Thank you for waiting. Through power personal software only. No cloud base, only USB Connectivity. Thank you"

To my online or interactive question

 

the PFC puresine by cyberpower should do that no ?

for 200$usd, it damn well better

Price will never tell you what the features are, you have to check the features specifically. I'm not familiar with that model.

 

Price will never tell you what the features are, you have to check the features specifically. I'm not familiar with that model.

well i kinda threatend to pull his scrotum over his head if my laptop was damaged using his ups.. and unless evolution took a different route for the Philippines, im certain that wouldnt be a pleasant Monday , hopefully that got my point across

 

regardless itg s 5 days from being in my possesion.. and my actual MSI laptop is somewhere on a boat heading to south east Asia

so apart from the pfc puresine wave inverter that i have linked twice.. any additional "preferably free" precautions that i can take ????