Hello my name is christopher i am a french canadian from you already know which province and i currently reside and one of the islands of the philippines to be closer to my wonderful daughter, please forgive the lack of punctuation as i am using speech to text on my smartphone for obvious reasons.

I don't know if it is common knowledge but philippines has something called dirty electricity because of static and the lines or the fact that the voltage goes up and down or the hertz keeps changing i don't know but what i do know is that one computer that i was using the motherboard was damaged although i was using a ups that had a modified sound wave inverter in it and the computer just shut down, so i am trying to get a family member to send me my msi gaming laptop which cost me about 1500 dollars (cad) on new egg so my question is is there a way to keep my laptop safe from dirty electricity all electrical.outlets in my home have only 2 prongs no ground.. so i scratched off some paint off of the steel beam in my home (called earthquake beam, and placed the copper of an extension line from the ground prong of both the ups and computer power supply to that beam.. i know it isn't a very strong option or thick cable but i honestly don't see lightning strikes that often.. and i will mention that the power comes from a geothermal plant and the company is called LEYECO.... My second option is i have 2SLA batteries linked in parallel that gets 100 watts of solar on a good day max I've it get is 250watts... I have an inverter modified sine wave inverter of course.. can i charge the batteries via land power and only tap into the batteries via inverter ? Is that power safe enough to use ??? The laptop is called msi GF65 thinUE... and my psychiatrist suggested that 4x strategy video games are an excellent way to deal with my nasty PTSD ( I saw an episode of the Kardashians and never recovered) I'm from a socialist country so capitalism is new to me so I'm not exactly swimming in local currency...id like to know with everything I've just said which is the best idea for my next purchase? A ups with a pure sine wave inverter or a DC to ac with pure sine wave inverter ??? Either will run me approximately 5000 php or 100$us.. your guidance PLEASE or sil Vous plait.... Thank you and have a great day

Ps worth mentioning that all the steel beams are connected and a few or all of them go 1.5m into the ground

 

A video can be provided if you are made of sturdy stuff my Celine Dion accent can be weaponized to do great harm... and I'm messy AF..

 

I will also add that of course the MSI laptop has a large power brick about half the size of a VCR cassette but heavier.. i know that is strong but is it strong enough to filter out the nasty power i get from LEYECO power company ?

 

I skimmed.. but if your problem is dirty power, the key words you want to search with are "power conditioner".

 

I skimmed.. but if your problem is dirty power, the key words you want to search with are "power conditioner".

Thank you and can you confirm that leyeco has this dirty power that i mentioned ? This is my 3rd deployment to the philippines and from my stay in the other 2 islands (not the one I am in now) they had dirty power) but leyte I'm not sure

 

I skimmed.. but if your problem is dirty power, the key words you want to search with are "power conditioner".

And I'm looking up a power conditioner now, but so much china bs in the local version of Amazon it's hard to distinguish what i should be looking for

 

They are made by some of the mainstream companies, like APC, Tripp Lite, etc.. I don't know anything about your local power.

 

I skimmed.. but if your problem is dirty power, the key words you want to search with are "power conditioner".

Most of the "power conditioners" look to be identical to a power bar or "multi plug" sometimes called here... I'll keep looking

 

Did search for power conditioner and i got this APC ups up to 600 watts I'm guessing it has a pure sine wave inverter, which is great.. i wait for your thumbs up

 

I may be totally wrong about this, but I think the fact that a laptop brick can handle such a wide range of inputs (typically 90-250V) makes it fairly immune to “dirty power.” I would worry much more about appliances that run directly off the AC power.

Someone please correct me if this is wrong.

 

I may be totally wrong about this, but I think the fact that a laptop brick can handle such a wide range of inputs (typically 90-250V) makes it fairly immune to “dirty power.” I would worry much more about appliances that run directly off the AC power.

Someone please correct me if this is wrong.

That sounds comforting, i tried getting in touch with MSI tech support but it took longer than 10 minutes so i gave up ...I am aware that most laptop power bricks have something called switch mode and since this gaming laptop is barely 5 years old, it should have that feature built in .. yup released in 2021.. and tbh I'm DYING to try starfield

 

please forgive the lack of punctuation as i am using speech to text on my smartphone

If no one has welcomed you to AAC, "Welcome to AAC."
As for using speech to text, I use it all the time. When I want a comma I state "Comma" and it puts one in. If I say "Period" I get a period. If I say "New Line" it automatically enters a return stroke (literally a new line or paragraph).

Now, you have a power brick. That should filter out just about all the fluctuation you claim is going on. No, I don't know if it does or doesn't, I've never been to the Philippines. But I got to thinking about a DC power filter. I used to run them on my car when I was running CB Radio's. It blocked out the high pitch whine of the alternator and it filtered out the fluctuations and noises that are inherent in automotive electronics. Have a look at THIS. You may need to build a set of cables to allow you to plug it in, OR if you're adventurous you can cut the cord and just simply wire it in series with the brick and computer. Beyond that suggestion there's nothing more I can add. However, I don't know if you can get this in the Philippines.

 

I have a similar problem with glitchy power here in Coastal Georgia. My solution is, as above, a UPS. Not just for power loss ride through but also the conditioning and regulation of its output power. The ride through issue is currently being quoted as a Whole House Backup Generator project after just enduring a 4-day outage and over 2k$ loss of frozen and refrigerated foods.

 

laptop batteries should bridge any reasonably short power outages. laptops PSU should handle voltage fluctuations. what it may not handle well is transients. so for that i would invest into a UPS that has surge suppression or at least a good surge suppressor power bar- reputable one that will also pay for damage if it fails to provide protection.

 

If no one has welcomed you to AAC, "Welcome to AAC."
As for using speech to text, I use it all the time. When I want a comma I state "Comma" and it puts one in. If I say "Period" I get a period. If I say "New Line" it automatically enters a return stroke (literally a new line or paragraph).

Now, you have a power brick. That should filter out just about all the fluctuation you claim is going on. No, I don't know if it does or doesn't, I've never been to the Philippines. But I got to thinking about a DC power filter. I used to run them on my car when I was running CB Radio's. It blocked out the high pitch whine of the alternator and it filtered out the fluctuations and noises that are inherent in automotive electronics. Have a look at THIS. You may need to build a set of cables to allow you to plug it in, OR if you're adventurous you can cut the cord and just simply wire it in series with the brick and computer. Beyond that suggestion there's nothing more I can add. However, I don't know if you can get this in the Philippines.

I appreciate your welcome to AAC.. to be honest it is a modern miracle that speech to text can make out my jibberish with the evil Celine Dion accent, we actually come out sounding like all those evil french villains in Hollywood movies I'm actually happy that the other poster mentioned that i should be free and clear as long as i depend on the oversized power brick, I'll simply use the cable I have stuck to the earthquake beam in my homestead as ground, heck i can use 2 wires for additional ground... And i will leave the current UPS that I have in some corner and forget it exists...i also have a USB HDD dock with 5hdds duct taped to it and yes I'm kidding about the duct tape... But that USB HDD dock has its own brick of sorts.. might sound amusing but 10tb is 10tb no matter how you look at it, so in your professional opinion the laptop shouldn't give me any issues if i keep it plugged in land power ??? And use the 1 or 2 cables going from grounding prong to the scratched portion of the metal beam inside my home ????as for what you linked, that looks like a bit of work, and I'm certain i could find a way to Hook it up however my uncle's all being Polish taught me how to manage things with a "good enough" way of approaching things, so if i wired that into my system it would most likely be exposed and potentially harm me on contact...... If you saw my solar setup, i guarantee you would scoff at it. Thank you again however

 

I have a similar problem with glitchy power here in Coastal Georgia. My solution is, as above, a UPS. Not just for power loss ride through but also the conditioning and regulation of its output power. The ride through issue is currently being quoted as a Whole House Backup Generator project after just enduring a 4-day outage and over 2k$ loss of frozen and refrigerated foods.

I fully agree with you but i read that a modified sine wave inverter is not good for laptops for some reason... So i will have to shell out for a ups with a sine wave inverter.. like the one I linked above... Btw, when you say Georgia, you mean the state or the country in Europe with the largest USMC personel ???

 

laptop batteries should bridge any reasonably short power outages. laptops PSU should handle voltage fluctuations. what it may not handle well is transients. so for that i would invest into a UPS that has surge suppression or at least a good surge suppressor power bar- reputable one that will also pay for damage if it fails to provide protection.

Well if the wires behind the outlet are correctly labeled can i not simply add a GFCI ? I do have one but never used it that might stop any major surge, additional step to keep my baby safe and i mean my laptop not my actual child.... And i think it is adorable that you think any Chinese product that comes to the philippines has any sort of warranty, when i did a thing in Africa, the highways were littered with abandoned Chinese EV's that broke down and it's next to impossible to get parts for those.. philippines is creeping towards that identical situation....

But i will certainly purchase n APC. Ups with a pure sine wave inverter, i appreciate the advice

 

I do have SIGNIFICANT EXPERIENCE with developing countries’ power grids.

The worst problem that I have seen is that the neutral wire is usually poorly bonded to ground, and as such it can float several volts above ground even during normal operation. During power transients or lightning it is almost an open circuit causing the common mode transient to rise hundreds of volts above ground. And no, the regular suppressors intended for developed country installations cannot stop it, as they require a low impedance to ground to operate correctly.

Boy, can I tell you horror stories!! Many of these countries have lax or non existent electrical codes, or are seldom enforced.
Somewhere I have a photo of a thin neutral wire simply wrapped around a dirty steel pipe. No clamps of any type.
Additionally, many installations DO NOT have a dedicated safety ground wire. If a type-B receptacle is installed, the ground terminal is attached to the neutral. Since they use any wire color they have lying around, sometimes the ground terminal is bounded to the live wire. Again, I have personally seen it.

Anyway, the solution is, in addition to all that has been suggested, an isolation transformer and a “personal” grounding rod used only for your devices.

 

you mean the state

Yep. And I use APC UPSs for my filtering and voltage regulation. Last one was a refurbished unit from eBay.

Not much more than the price of a replacement 12V battery for it. Not much ride through capacity/time for my tower and monitor but enough for orderly shutdown when outage occurs plus excellent filtering and regulation.

 

Yep. And I use APC UPSs for my filtering and voltage regulation. Last one was a refurbished unit from eBay.
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Not much more than the price of a replacement 12V battery for it. Not much ride through capacity/time for my tower and monitor but enough for orderly shutdown when outage occurs plus excellent filtering and regulation.

I don't really care about refurbs, just means a professional took the time to look over everything to find the defective component, the replacement Mobo i got is a refurb.. only 500 php

But sadly it only takes ddr2 ram and will not allow me to use my 16gb of ddr3... c'est la vie