MK105 change frequency

Andrei Suditu

Joined Jul 27, 2016
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No worries. I’ll go ask somewhere else. We’re having a lack of communication. I’m asking for something different than normal. I want to put over a ghz to a circuit. I would like 10-40 watts. For some reason I thought that would be simple. I don’t want to do 1000 things at 64 bits. I just want the one frequency on a board to hook stuff up to it.
Rule of thumb is the higher the frequency is the harder to design and even harder to implement .555 timer is really old and can't even dream for ghz range.
If you need wireless power transmition it can be done at lower frequencies.
Why do you want ghz range in the first place....i mean i can't see the point when you can transmit power wireless in the khz domain where it's easyer to work.
The idea here is that the other forum members(me included) don't understand the aplication so it'll help if you expain it and expand on it.
Ghz range is mostly innacesible,you will always use ready made silicon and special cables for this range.(if even really worts struggling for since impedance is massive at those frequencies).
If you want a wireless power transmiter build a zvs driver....power it from 3v-5v (low power to minimize disipation) and wind a higher turn aircore bobin.
As for components since it's low power try some highspeed diodes ,some cheap mosfets(look for kind of low rds-on and x4 times the suply voltage for the Vds breakdown voltage).
1N5822 x2
Irf520x2(or any other part that can withstand some power ,mosfets recycled from pc motherboards work for 6v operation)
330ohm x2 (may need adjustment)
1 100uH power choke
Follow the google mazilli driver results for schematics (1 choke design or 2 depends if you want center tapped transmiter or not).
 

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Hvacguy

Joined Jan 27, 2019
28
Thanks I’ll look at that. As far as application, I have various ideas. If my frequency ends at 2.5, and I do the math to come up with 12 centimeters. My first thing to try might be hook up to a 12x3 = 36 length of taut wire and turn it on. I think the wires going to oscillate at a high rate. Also wrapping the coils in a size that reflects the frequency. Just need one single stable frequency around 1.5. For physical reasons. Ease of use.
 

MrChips

Joined Oct 2, 2009
34,810
No worries. I’ll go ask somewhere else. We’re having a lack of communication. I’m asking for something different than normal. I want to put over a ghz to a circuit. I would like 10-40 watts. For some reason I thought that would be simple. I don’t want to do 1000 things at 64 bits. I just want the one frequency on a board to hook stuff up to it.
To be honest, no one here has a clue as to what you want to do with a 1-6GHz signal.
You are wasting your time here as it appears that you are not listening to what others are saying.
Hope you find success at another forum.
 

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Hvacguy

Joined Jan 27, 2019
28
To be honest, no one here has a clue as to what you want to do with a 1-6GHz signal.
You are wasting your time here as it appears that you are not listening to what others are saying.
Hope you find success at another forum.
I have a multitude of things I would like to try. I need the frequency to give me a workable spacing of hertz to play with. I’m not trying to build a high power radio or some microwave etc. I’m just trying to get 2 terminals on a board that have 1.5-4? Ghz on it. So that I can see what happens when I hook stuff to it. I want to experiment. So I just need a high frequency that I can count on being somewhat consistent. One single frequency.
 

MrChips

Joined Oct 2, 2009
34,810
I have a multitude of things I would like to try. I need the frequency to give me a workable spacing of hertz to play with. I’m not trying to build a high power radio or some microwave etc. I’m just trying to get 2 terminals on a board that have 1.5-4? Ghz on it. So that I can see what happens when I hook stuff to it. I want to experiment. So I just need a high frequency that I can count on being somewhat consistent. One single frequency.
Are you sure that you know what you are doing or attempting to do?
Do you know the effects of 10-40W @ 1-6GHz?
 

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Hvacguy

Joined Jan 27, 2019
28
Here we go. I’ve tuned my want a bit. I’m looking to have a fixed frequency power supply. Frequency Between 1.2-4 ghz. Higher wattage is better but I will start with what’s available and not too complicated to make.
 

BobTPH

Joined Jun 5, 2013
11,515
Chips that operate in that region, for the most part, do not have that frequency anywhere outside the chip. For example, state of the art microprocessors can run at 3 GHz. But you don't feed in 3 GHz. Why? Because at those frequencies, the wires you feed them in on will make a capacitor large enough to short out the signal. The chip is feed with a much lower frequency, less than 100 MHz, then circuitry inside the chip multiplies the frequency to get to 3 GHz. inside the chip, all the wires are much shorter, the whole chip is limited to about a 1/2 inch square. Even then, the clock signals in the chip are delayed so long by that 1/2 inch distance, that they have to have to go to great lengths to make sure they the clock is in synchronization across the entire chip because of the speed of light delays.

So, you think my analogy is wrong. How about this one. Tesla can make a car that can go 160 MPH and accelerate from 0 to 60 in 4 seconds. So, I should be able to make one at home that goes 80 MPH and accelerates from 0 to 60 in 8 seconds with no problem. While also matching it it in safety and comfort.

Still waiting for an example of what you expect to observe and how when you couple a 1.5 GHz signal through a couple of coils into a speaker.

Bob
 

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Hvacguy

Joined Jan 27, 2019
28
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Are you sure that you know what you are doing or attempting to do?
Do you know the effects of 10-40W @ 1-6GHz?
I work with high voltage a lot, im not trying to make any complicated circuits. I understand how low voltage dc steps up and how and why it travels. I won’t be careless. But I’ll take 2 watts. I have lots of questions about how it behaves. But if all our electronics going 2.4 ghz anyways I doubt a little closed circuit is going to be a problem. Small experiments. I know voltage jumps out at high frequency. That’s the exact reason I want to play with it.
 

MrChips

Joined Oct 2, 2009
34,810
Do you know that exposure to microwave frequencies causes brain damage and cancer?

When Madame Curie was experimenting with radioactivity, she knew she was doing cutting edge scientific work. She did not know that radioactivity would kill her.
 

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Hvacguy

Joined Jan 27, 2019
28
Do you know that exposure to microwave frequencies causes brain damage and cancer?

When Madame Curie was experimenting with radioactivity, she knew she was doing cutting edge scientific work. She did not know that radioactivity would kill her.
All of the electronics around us are already 2.4 ghz. If it’s poison we’re all done for anyways.
 

MrChips

Joined Oct 2, 2009
34,810
Mobile phones output 15mW.
WiFi routers output 100mW.

And by the way, I do not own nor carry a mobile phone. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that I still have some functioning brain cells.
 

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Hvacguy

Joined Jan 27, 2019
28
Found the setup built on eBay from China for $7.12. I guess I can wait. Been researching this for 2 years. Thanks for the input guys.
 

LesJones

Joined Jan 8, 2017
4,511
1296 Mhz is band used by radio amateurs. If you Google 23cm transmitter you should find many designs. Many years ago I built a system for that frequency I started with a 432 Mhz transmitter fed into a varactor tripler which gave me about 4 watts at 1296 Mhz. This was then fed into a cavity tuned amplifier using 2 x 2C39 (Valves) which gave me about 100 watts at 1296 Mhz. This would give the sort of power you want but I don't think it has any chance doing what you want it to.

Les.
 

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Hvacguy

Joined Jan 27, 2019
28
Found the setup built on eBay from China for $7.12. I guess I can wait. Been researching this for 2 years. Thanks for the input guys.
Ok so I’m not linking anything but if you look at eBay for a 2.4 ghz oscillator the piece shown looks pretty well built. Like a bad ass circuit. That’s what I had in mind. Very simple. Prolly needs to be dipped in a coating lol. But that’s the circuit I had in mind. Hopefully it’s not a scam, or I’ll have to come back again lol.
 

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Hvacguy

Joined Jan 27, 2019
28
There is a part that keeps coming up when I was looking. NTE278. Says 1.2 ghz. Is that a thing where I could build a similar circuit to the 2.6 ghz but only be at 1.2 ghz? Looks like one chip a few caps on the eBay build. If I’m gonna make history I’d rather say all made/done in America. I could use my silver solder as the circuit and then coat the thing for safety.
 

BobTPH

Joined Jun 5, 2013
11,515
There is a part that keeps coming up when I was looking. NTE278. Says 1.2 ghz. Is that a thing where I could build a similar circuit to the 2.6 ghz but only be at 1.2 ghz? Looks like one chip a few caps on the eBay build. If I’m gonna make history I’d rather say all made/done in America. I could use my silver solder as the circuit and then coat the thing for safety.
Yes, make sure the microwaves don’t leak out.

Bob
 
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