Meaning of marks on old plate

strantor

Joined Oct 3, 2010
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As best I can find quickly...

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I've been a fan of your analyses of things for years, starting with the time you revealed a snickers bar has more potential energy than a stick of dynamite. (Edit: link - one month after signing up)

looks remarkably good
The exact words that went through my head when looking at the pictures.
 
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Reloadron

Joined Jan 15, 2015
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Remarkable good pictures. The really sad part of this thread is my fond memories of going to the "Soda Fountain" and ordering a shake and watching a soda jerk make my shake on one of these mixers. I grew up NYC and we never had pop it was always soda. You went to the Soda Fountain. The name I remember on those machines was Hamilton Beach but now as I learned several companies manufactured them. I do remember when they hit the switch the were screamers, really high RPM. While they ran on the then 110 ~115 VAC 60 Hz they were universal motors.

Soda Fountain Mixer.png

I also see some marketed by Sears labeled AC only.

Soda Fountain Mixe 1r.png

A simple Google of "old soda fountain mixer" will get dozens of images.

See them on Ebay also anywhere between $50 and several hundred USD.

I will add this. If I were looking to fully and accurately restore one of these I would use an original two wire power cord. Restoring a 1929 Willies Whippet I would not add hydraulic brakes either. No more than putting power brakes on a 55 Chevy restoration. Something about the word "original" I guess. Also if you didn't do your homework you would grow up to be a soda jerk.

Ron
 

shortbus

Joined Sep 30, 2009
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Remarkable good pictures. The really sad part of this thread is my fond memories of going to the "Soda Fountain" and ordering a shake and watching a soda jerk make my shake on one of these mixers
Go to a Dairy Queen and order a shake, they still use those mixers to this day. Or at least all of the local ones do.
 

MaxHeadRoom

Joined Jul 18, 2013
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"The idea for the now-iconic Blizzard came from a Dairy Queen franchisee in Missouri. Samuel Temperato, who owned a whopping 67 DQ locations, It remains the most popular DQ item on the menu today, in the US, anyway."
 

MisterBill2

Joined Jan 23, 2018
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I wondering if that motor was plated pre-NEMA ?


Delta & Star? But that seems to indicate 3ph.
I am wondering how that relates to a single phase universal motor.
I am wondering if there even could be a three-phase commutated motor. it could not be "universal" because 3-phase is AC only.
 

shortbus

Joined Sep 30, 2009
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"The idea for the now-iconic Blizzard came from a Dairy Queen franchisee in Missouri. Samuel Temperato, who owned a whopping 67 DQ locations, It remains the most popular DQ item on the menu today, in the US, anyway."
All of that may be true but you eat a Blizzard with a spoon and drink a milkshake with a straw. Unless you take your blizzard home and microwave it. :)
 

Reloadron

Joined Jan 15, 2015
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Go to a Dairy Queen and order a shake, they still use those mixers to this day. Or at least all of the local ones do.
Have to share this. After the family moved from NY to Ohio I visited. OK went to the DQ and ordered a "grape soda" I got this thing with what was in Ohio speak, grape pop with vanilla ice cream. My first lesson in pop. Hell growing up if you ordered a Coke at the soda fountain it was a few squirts of coke syrup and then seltzer and stirred. :) Took me years to adjust to the whole pop thing.

Our local DQ went away. Sucks as I like their frozen pies and cakes. I guess in PA they are just about everywhere. Now my closest DQ is about 7.5 miles. :(

Ron
 

DC_Kid

Joined Feb 25, 2008
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It would obviously appear to be a 1ph motor, so the interpretation of 3ph is rather moot!
But interesting that the plate has a "CY" item on it.

I txt'd a buddy of mine, most likely series wound dc-60Hz motor.

I find electrical motors interesting, but why is CY only 0-60, why not 0-100? Maybe 0-60 because that's about all one can get in the US?
 
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Danko

Joined Nov 22, 2017
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I find electrical motors interesting, but why is CY only 0-60, why not 0-100? Maybe 0-60 because that's about all one can get in the US?
The SI unit hertz (Hz) was established in Rudolf Hertz's honor by the International Electrotechnical Commission in 1930 for frequency,
so 100 years ago they used "CYcles per second" instead.
"Cycles per second may be denoted by c.p.s., c/s, or, ambiguously, just "cycles" (Cy./Cyc.)."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cycle_per_second
 
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MaxHeadRoom

Joined Jul 18, 2013
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But interesting that the plate has a "CY" item on it.

I txt'd a buddy of mine, most likely series wound dc-60Hz motor.

I find electrical motors interesting, but why is CY only 0-60, why not 0-100? Maybe 0-60 because that's about all one can get in the US?
Remember that Hz (Cycles) has no real relevance in the case of a series field brushed (Universal) AC/DC motor.
It operates in a run-away condition where the RPM is basically limited by load/friction etc.
 

shortbus

Joined Sep 30, 2009
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Now my closest DQ is about 7.5 miles. :(
I have 3 within that distance. :) Plus many mom and pop ice cream places.

I grew up using pop as what it's called, my oldest son has lived in the Atlanta area for over 20 years , when he comes home to visit he now uses soda.
 

WBahn

Joined Mar 31, 2012
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Here we use all three. The term "soda pop", though not terribly common, is far from unheard of here, so we tend to conclude that that's the proper term and that "soda" and "pop" are each just natural shorthand terms -- I can't really say which is more common here as they are used very interchangeably. There's no right answer, of course. It's all a matter what happens to be in common usage at the time in a particular place.
 
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