# lm 2917 question

Discussion in 'The Projects Forum' started by Bob123456, Oct 7, 2014.

1. ### Bob123456 Thread Starter New Member

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I am trying to use an lm 2917 (8 pin) as a basic freq to voltage converter.

I set up the circuit in the datasheet (page 10 1st diagram), using 12V for Vcc and a 250mV (peak to peak) 600Hz square wave offset so that the minimum amplitude of the wave was at 0V as the frequency input.

This setup worked but when I increased the amplitude of the square wave to 1.5V (with corresponding change in offset) it broke the chip. The datasheet says the input voltage can be a max of +-28V, so I'm a bit confused at why it broke. Is there a way I can get it to work with a larger amplitude wave?

2. ### ericgibbs AAC Fanatic!

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hi Bob,
Fig #21 of page #10, should handle a 0v to +1.5V square wave input OK.
If required a simple resistive divider could get the Vinp down to 250mVppk , if required,
When you say 'broke' the IC , whats the problem.?
What is the : (with corresponding change in offset)
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3. ### Bob123456 Thread Starter New Member

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With the offset I just meant that when I increased the amplitude I adjusted the offset so that the minimum amplitude of the wave was still at 0V.

When I readjusted the square wave back to 250mV pk-pk there was no increase in voltage like there was before from the ic so I assumed I broke something (It didn't heat up or anything though).

edit: meant voltage not frequency

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4. ### eetech00 Active Member

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Hi

Can you post a schematic of your circuit?
It sounds like you are expecting a change in the frequency detected by changing input amplitude(?)

eT

5. ### ericgibbs AAC Fanatic!

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hi Bob,
'eetech' could be correct, lets see your circuit.
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6. ### Bob123456 Thread Starter New Member

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My circuit is figure 21 of the datasheet (zener controlled frequency to voltage converter).
I use the described square wave for fin. I did try using the circuit in figure 19 on my first chip but it heated up massively as soon as I supplied vcc (I'm guessing the lack of a resistor to restrict current from vcc fried it).

I was planning on keeping the amplitude constant and just have the input frequency change the output voltage, I tested with a small amplitude frequency signal first and then scaled the amplitude up a bit to see if it would keep working, the output voltage did increase to start with but then as I increased further it dropped back to zero.

7. ### Alec_t AAC Fanatic!

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It certainly would .

8. ### Bob123456 Thread Starter New Member

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I can't say I understand why they would put a setup on the sheet that doesn't work though.

9. ### eetech00 Active Member

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Ok...here is where this statement is confusing. The device is a F to V converter, so why expect the output to change if only changing input amplitude? The output voltage shouldn't change. The output voltage should change only if the input frequency changes. Or maybe I'm just misunderstanding....

Vout = Vcc*Fin*C1*R1*(gain=1.0)

Vout = 12v*600Hz*0.02uf*100k*1.0

For the R1,C1 values shown, and 600 Hz input, the output would be about 14.4 vdc...yikes!

eT

10. ### Bob123456 Thread Starter New Member

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It's all good now, I misread the datasheet formula. thanks

11. ### Alec_t AAC Fanatic!

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The datasheet clearly shows a 470 Ohm resistor from Vcc.