LED Heartbeat

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Icanmakeit67

Joined Sep 23, 2018
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Looking for a design schematic to light 4-6 LEDs in parallel. I want to install it in a plastic heart, located inside a skeleton’s chest, part of a Halloween display. I’d like it to do a (beat-beat, short time off then (beat-beat). Repeat. If possible a way to adjust the speed.
operate at 9vdc
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dl324

Joined Mar 30, 2015
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Assuming you want all of the LEDs to blink on and off together, I'd use a CD4017 with a 555 timer as the clock. Or/skip the outputs to get the on-off-on-off timing you want and vary the frequency on the timer for your needs. You'll need to have the counter outputs drive a transistor to drive the LEDs.
 

Alec_t

Joined Sep 17, 2013
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Depending on the particular LEDs you intend to use, a series-parallel array will likely be more efficient (giving a longer battery life) than an all-parallel array.
 

dl324

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Schematic showing CD4017 with 2 LEDs. If you want 4 LEDs, add another MOSFET and pair of LEDs. For 6, use two strings of 3 and adjust the current limiting resistor accordingly.
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wayneh

Joined Sep 9, 2010
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I can't believe I'm saying this but I think the results would be better with a microprocessor to provide a more realistic throbbing. I've used one to throb an LED with a simple sine wave and it worked great. Hard on and off just doesn't look ... lifelike.
 

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Icanmakeit67

Joined Sep 23, 2018
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Schematic showing CD4017 with 2 LEDs. If you want 4 LEDs, add another MOSFET and pair of LEDs. For 6, use two strings of 3 and adjust the current limiting resistor accordingly.
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So the diode are general switching and the 4017 requires a clock pulse. Will an adjustment to the speed of the clock pulse say from a 555 design easily change heart beat?
 

dl324

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So the diode are general switching and the 4017 requires a clock pulse. Will an adjustment to the speed of the clock pulse say from a 555 design easily change heart beat?
Yes. The diodes can be 1N4148 or similar. I deleted the part number so I could put them closer together and forgot to add a note. You still have to add the 555 timer I mentioned in my first post. Also add a 10k pull-down resistor on the gate and decoupling caps.

You'll have to fiddle with the clock frequency because you only have 10 outputs to implement the desired pattern.
 

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Icanmakeit67

Joined Sep 23, 2018
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Yes. The diodes can be 1N4148 or similar. I deleted the part number so I could put them closer together and forgot to add a note. You still have to add the 555 timer I mentioned in my first post. Also add a pull-down resistor on the gate and decoupling caps.

You'll have to fiddle with the clock frequency because you only have 10 outputs to implement the desired pattern.
Not sure what you mean about the gate. Could you show an example ?
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ElectricSpidey

Joined Dec 2, 2017
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Wouldn't the circuit in post #5 need an open output between D1 and D2 also D3 and D4 to produce (beat-beat, short time off then (beat-beat)?

If there aren't enough outputs to do the job, there is a way to change the timing of a 555 using the outputs of the 4017 to bring the timing circuit of a 555 to the positive rail.
 

dl324

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Not sure what you mean about the gate. Could you show an example ?
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This gives a frequency of about 10Hz, so the pattern would be on 0.2s, off 0.2s, on 0.2s, off 0.4s 0.3s.

I've never had problems with NE555 driving CMOS. If you do, you can add a pull up resistor on the output of the timer or use a CMOS version.
 
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Icanmakeit67

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View attachment 331331
This gives a frequency of about 10Hz, so the pattern would be on 0.2s, off 0.2s, on 0.2s, off 0.4s 0.3s.

I've never had problems with NE555 driving CMOS. If you do, you can add a pull up resistor on the output of the timer or use a CMOS version.
Looks good I’ll breadboard it. I’d like more time after second beat befor the two beat sequence repeats.
beat xxx beat xxxxxxxx beat xxx beat.
I’ll try this first. Doesn’t the 4017 need power at pin 16 and ground at pin 8?
 

dl324

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I’d like more time after second beat befor the two beat sequence repeats.
beat xxx beat xxxxxxxx beat xxx beat.
You can play around with the number of counts that the LEDs are on and the frequency. Personally, I think I'd like the heartbeat to be slower.
Doesn’t the 4017 need power at pin 16 and ground at pin 8?
Yes. My schematic editor doesn't show explicit power connections for most parts - and I like it that way. I don't like the clutter power connections or decoupling caps. Anyone who knows anything will know that you need to connect power and supply appropriate supply decoupling.
 
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