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DerStrom8

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I could post the same one except it is gone from the ETO site. :D
Had it gotten as far out of hand as this one I probably would have understood closing it. What bothered me was that ETO doesn't follow it's own rules, and worse can't explain why they don't either change them or follow them. :( I suspect it was just because you made a mistake, but I don't know that.
Anyway, the objective was the same so I got my answer here, learned a lot, and gained respect for this site.
OMG, did I just say something nice about Joey?
It was a judgement call, and I was prepared to reopen it if the other moderators agreed that it would bring out more good than bad. But due to the wording and the overall nature of the post, we all saw it as bait that could lead to some nasty flaming, so it was left closed.

I'll PM you.
 

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Joined Nov 30, 2010
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http://thefreethoughtproject.com/ma...-exposes-created-terror-declaring-war-terror/

https://reason.com/archives/2015/12/17/conspiracy-of-fearmongers

I think the most relevant comment I've seen lately is: "Terrorists commit crimes. America wages war." Article above discusses how many people want to kill Americans because our government bombed (killed, murdered) most of their family.

My opinion? There isn't much danger here on a personal level as long as our government doesn't finish disarming the citizens. WW II was afraid to come here because there are way too many of us that can defend ourselves. I am grateful that the citizens of the U.S.A. (alone) pose such a great risk to, "terrorists". I am not grateful for the 11 minute to 60 minute average response time of our Brave Policepersons.

I said in a previous post that I can empty an AK47 into a crowded theater faster than you can say, "Drop that doughnut." And I repeat, if 5% of the citizens have a pistol under their jacket, no terrorist will ever put the second clip in his rifle.
 
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ronv

Joined Nov 12, 2008
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http://thefreethoughtproject.com/ma...-exposes-created-terror-declaring-war-terror/

https://reason.com/archives/2015/12/17/conspiracy-of-fearmongers

I think the most relevant comment I've seen lately is: "Terrorists commit crimes. America wages war." Article above discusses how many people want to kill Americans because our government bombed (killed, murdered) most of their family.

My opinion? There isn't much danger here on a personal level as long as our government doesn't finish disarming the citizens. WW II was afraid to come here because there are way too many of us that can defend ourselves. I am grateful that the citizens of the U.S.A. (alone) pose such a great risk to, "terrorists". I am not grateful for the 11 minute to 60 minute average response time of our Brave Policepersons.

I said in a previous post that I can empty an AK47 into a crowded theater faster than you can say, "Drop that doughnut." And I repeat, if 5% of the citizens have a pistol under their jacket, no terrorist will ever put the second clip in his rifle.
I think your articles are spot on. Fear sells. :(
I don't quite understand the guns. Arizona is an open carry state full of gun advocates, but you seldom see anyone with a gun on their hip. Do you think most people that can carry legally don't?
Over 30% of the people here have a gun. Why don't they carry if they are afraid?
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But I think you are right, it all happens to fast. Here with the Gifford's shooting the guy emptied his clip, then dropped his new one. A little old lady grabbed his new clip and a guy that had be shot his gun. About that time a guy that did have a gun came out of the store. He said he almost shot the good guy, but for some reason did not shoot.
 
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nsaspook

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http://www.lrb.co.uk/v38/n01/seymour-m-hersh/military-to-military
Germany, Israel and Russia were in contact with the Syrian army, and able to exercise some influence over Assad’s decisions – it was through them that US intelligence would be shared. Each had its reasons for co-operating with Assad: Germany feared what might happen among its own population of six million Muslims if Islamic State expanded; Israel was concerned with border security; Russia had an alliance of very long standing with Syria, and was worried by the threat to its only naval base on the Mediterranean, at Tartus. ‘We weren’t intent on deviating from Obama’s stated policies,’ the adviser said. ‘But sharing our assessments via the military-to-military relationships with other countries could prove productive. It was clear that Assad needed better tactical intelligence and operational advice. The JCS concluded that if those needs were met, the overall fight against Islamist terrorism would be enhanced. Obama didn’t know, but Obama doesn’t know what the JCS does in every circumstance and that’s true of all presidents.’
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“Here’s some information that’s pretty interesting and our interest is mutual.” End of conversation. The JCS could conclude that something beneficial would arise from it – but it was a military to military thing, and not some sort of a sinister Joint Chiefs’ plot to go around Obama and support Assad. It was a lot cleverer than that. If Assad remains in power, it will not be because we did it. It’s because he was smart enough to use the intelligence and sound tactical advice we provided to others.’
 

JoeJester

Joined Apr 26, 2005
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Interesting review.

The more we think we know, the less we actually know. Russia, I believe has the political wherewithal that the U.S. lacks.
 

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ronv

Joined Nov 12, 2008
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Do you have a published article that expresses the opposite opine?
No, It's just that 22 Iraq and Afghanistan soldiers don't commit suicide daily. Most of those 22 are from earlier wars.
Most of the drone missiles are only 90K. (still a lot to spend on a $1000 Toyota)
More exaggerations than outright lies.
 
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