My two cents:
- During times of emergency, such as war, the President can deny entry into the US of anyone, for any reason.

- I listened to an NPR interview of an American Islamic expert about Islam and ISIS. He said the major Islamic scholars around the world deny that ISIS is operating within Islamic law. He went on to say that it is ludicrous that the US is still debating whether ISIS is Islamic when the Islamic world says that ISIS in not Islamic.

 

ISIS or any other Islamic terror group, the aim is the same - domination of the world by Islam. Think Spanish Inquisition - in spades!

 

My two cents:
- During times of emergency, such as war, the President can deny entry into the US of anyone, for any reason.

- I listened to an NPR interview of an American Islamic expert about Islam and ISIS. He said the major Islamic scholars around the world deny that ISIS is operating within Islamic law. He went on to say that it is ludicrous that the US is still debating whether ISIS is Islamic when the Islamic world says that ISIS in not Islamic.

I think you would agree that they are Sunni Muslims??
To me just looking at the maps it is clear what is going to happen.
There will be a Sunni State made out of Iraq and Syria
There will be a Shiite state made out of the rest of Iraq and perhaps Iran.
And a Kurdish state in Iraq and perhaps Turkey.
The reason I say this is:
The Kurds have proven themselves capable of defending their territory but show no interest in retaking Sunni land from ISIS.
The Sunni's in the Iraq army join ISIS or give them their weapons when they are ask to fight them and the Shiites in the Iraq army see no real need to retake a Sunni city from some more Sunnis.
The Sunnis in Syria will fight Assad, but not the ISIS Sunnis.
The other Arabs (mostly Sunni) in the area will give us lip service but no boots.
So it's up to us to decide if we want to kill a bunch of Sunnis in a bunch of Sunni towns and occupy those towns. And if we choose to do that who will we turn those towns over to in the long run. The logical choice is the Sunnis.
So I'm back to lets help divvy it up along religions lines and manage the balance of power with equipment and air support to the people that are willing to fight for their way of life.
This would kind of get it back to the way it was when we got rid of Saddam.
I didn't hear about to many Iraqi or Syrian terrorists before the Iraq war.
They are pissed at us, that's for sure, but you would be to. As a matter of fact most of us are pissed at them.

 

I don't believe a word of it. Like the statement above, sounds like fabrication.

You are betraying how little you follow the news.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news...r-obama-denying-priority-refugees-s/?page=all
http://humanevents.com/2015/09/28/obama-throws-christian-refugees-to-lions/
http://www.nationalreview.com/artic...-minorities-united-states-resettlement-policy
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/09/30/iraqi-christians-denied-asylum-in-us-facing-looming-expulsion/
http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/obam...ristians-fleeing-isis-to-enter-united-states/
http://thehill.com/blogs/congress-b...670-no-room-in-america-for-christian-refugees

 

You are betraying how little you follow the news.

Not really. Fox isn't really news. Most of the remaining stories are, as I expected, hyperbolic.

eg, Not prioritizing refugees based on religion only further proves that there are no religious tests.

 

You are betraying how little you follow the news.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news...r-obama-denying-priority-refugees-s/?page=all
http://humanevents.com/2015/09/28/obama-throws-christian-refugees-to-lions/
http://www.nationalreview.com/artic...-minorities-united-states-resettlement-policy
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/09/30/iraqi-christians-denied-asylum-in-us-facing-looming-expulsion/
http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/obam...ristians-fleeing-isis-to-enter-united-states/
http://thehill.com/blogs/congress-b...670-no-room-in-america-for-christian-refugees

But, but.
http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/2015/aug/10/Iraq-Chaldean-Christians-deported-immigration/

 

If you round up the RADICAL imams AND the FAMILIES worldwide, you'll put short work to terrorism.

War is a competition of cruelty.

 

This is juicy. It's excerpted from one of the links given above which was supposed to prove that Christian refugees are being turned away for not having the 'right' religion.

A select few of the criminal complaints against the Chaldeans, provided to FoxNews.com by ICE, contain statements and allegations that at least some of them – although born in Iraq – held German passports and had been living there for a number of years. In interviews with officials, some applicants allegedly admitted that their claims of family threats were “fabricated” to assist with their applications.

So, they weren't Iraqi refugees at all. Neither did they face any religious persecution in country they were living, Germany. Supposedly, those of us who correctly know that there isn't a religious test for immigrants don't read the news. But this kind of trash reporting is the news which is supposed to prove it??? Beware of foxes dressed as news people.

 

We need "(term removed by moderator)"seeking missile.Would be pretty effective weapon.

Wow, 500,000 refugees thru a country of 4 million. Have they killed many people?

 

My two cents:
- I listened to an NPR interview of an American Islamic expert about Islam and ISIS. He said the major Islamic scholars around the world deny that ISIS is operating within Islamic law. He went on to say that it is ludicrous that the US is still debating whether ISIS is Islamic when the Islamic world says that ISIS in not Islamic.

We are misled in a second way, by a well-intentioned but dishonest campaign to deny the Islamic State’s medieval religious nature.
...
The reality is that the Islamic State is Islamic. Very Islamic. Yes, it has attracted psychopaths and adventure seekers, drawn largely from the disaffected populations of the Middle East and Europe. But the religion preached by its most ardent followers derives from coherent and even learned interpretations of Islam.
...
Virtually every major decision and law promulgated by the Islamic State adheres to what it calls, in its press and pronouncements, and on its billboards, license plates, stationery, and coins, “the Prophetic methodology,” which means following the prophecy and example of Muhammad, in punctilious detail. Muslims can reject the Islamic State; nearly all do. But pretending that it isn’t actually a religious, millenarian group, with theology that must be understood to be combatted, has already led the United States to underestimate it and back foolish schemes to counter it. We’ll need to get acquainted with the Islamic State’s intellectual genealogy if we are to react in a way that will not strengthen it, but instead help it self-immolate in its own excessive zeal.

I posted this before from here: http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2015/03/what-isis-really-wants/384980/

 

I posted this before from here: http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2015/03/what-isis-really-wants/384980/

It's a little long winded, but I agree with this part.

Given everything we know about the Islamic State, continuing to slowly bleed it, through air strikes and proxy warfare, appears the best of bad military options. Neither the Kurds nor the Shia will ever subdue and control the whole Sunni heartland of Syria and Iraq—they are hated there, and have no appetite for such an adventure anyway. But they can keep the Islamic State from fulfilling its duty to expand. And with every month that it fails to expand, it resembles less the conquering state of the Prophet Muhammad than yet another Middle Eastern government failing to bring prosperity to its people.

 

It's a little long winded, but I agree with this part.

Given everything we know about the Islamic State, continuing to slowly bleed it, through air strikes and proxy warfare, appears the best of bad military options. Neither the Kurds nor the Shia will ever subdue and control the whole Sunni heartland of Syria and Iraq—they are hated there, and have no appetite for such an adventure anyway. But they can keep the Islamic State from fulfilling its duty to expand. And with every month that it fails to expand, it resembles less the conquering state of the Prophet Muhammad than yet another Middle Eastern government failing to bring prosperity to its people.

I't might be the best military option but it will give the the Islamic State plenty of time and a home to raise hell on the non-military citizens of the world in that failing state.

 

I't might be the best military option but it will give the the Islamic State plenty of time and a home to raise hell on the non-military citizens of the world in that failing state.

The more moderate Sunnis kicked them out once. Maybe they will do it again once it sinks in again that maybe they don't like what they are selling. We have the same problem either way. Let them burn some calories trying to take more land once they get up against people that have more to fight for. See my post above.

 

So, it seems that ISIS want to initiate the end of days/apocalypse. This goal takes precedence over the Koran, and any western ideal of human decency. Their narrative is full of contradictions. It is a waste of effort to call ISIS insane. Sanity is just a bunch of norms that a society accepts and makes doctrine. ISIS has created their own sanity. It is important to know your enemy before you can destroy them. But then that is the crunch. The US can't be seen as a main player in the destruction of ISIS. ISIS knows this.

The tribal dysfunction goes back thousands of years. It's the muddle-east.

 

If we really want to make them burn calories then we need to stop the Turkish sale of Islamic State oil. This cash flow of millions per month is keeping the terror state afloat.

Syrian-Turkish border video of tankers crossing the boarder from ISIS controlled areas into Turkey.

 

Wow, 500,000 refugees thru a country of 4 million. Have they killed many people?

If their mission is to kill Americans, they can travel throughout all Europe on their way to the U.S.

Hunters don't kill every critter in sight on the way to their hunting grounds.

 

If we really want to make them burn calories then we need to stop the Turkish sale of Islamic State oil. This cash flow of millions per month is keeping the terror state afloat.

Syrian-Turkish border video of tankers crossing the boarder from ISIS controlled areas into Turkey.

If we really want to make them burn calories then we need to stop the Turkish sale of Islamic State oil. This cash flow of millions per month is keeping the terror state afloat.

Syrian-Turkish border video of tankers crossing the boarder from ISIS controlled areas into Turkey.

Yea, the Turks seem to want it all without any work. Somebody needs to have a short talk with them. Probably somebody from the EU and somebody else from NATO.
But I think they may be more afraid of the Kurds than of ISIS.
I wonder if the oil is coming thru the same little gap where the Russian plane was shot down.

 

If their mission is to kill Americans, they can travel throughout all Europe on their way to the U.S.

Hunters don't kill every critter in sight on the way to their hunting grounds.

ISIS wants to use our news media to spread their terror. Their acts have to say,"This could happen to you". Just killing people without sensationalism does not serve their purpose.

Lets do a little math. ISIS kills 200 Americans in an attack. 200 divided by 320,000,000 means you have a 1 in 1,600,000 chance of being one of them. Your chance of being killed goes up if you live in New York or California. Your chance of being killed goes way down if you live in Florida, Arizona, Texas.......

Sorry, I like math

 

My chances goes to near zero, living in Alabama Appalachia country.

 

You are North of Birmingham (prettiest city in Ala-bam)