I need a bit of wiring help...

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tyler m

Joined Feb 28, 2017
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it doesn't just short. If I unplug it after it shuts off then plug it back in with a lower voltage it won't work.
 

WBahn

Joined Mar 31, 2012
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Here's the simple wiring that I am thinking about. Remember, I am not sure what this will do to your batteries in the long run.

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And if you can use a separate battery for the light, try this.

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These won't work as you have a complete circuit going through the lamp even with the switch off. You could fix that with a diode scavenged from some place.
 

djsfantasi

Joined Apr 11, 2010
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These won't work as you have a complete circuit going through the lamp even with the switch off. You could fix that with a diode scavenged from some place.
Damn! Missed that. Of course you are totally correct. I'll adjust tomorrow.

Hate those sneak circuits. Ran into them a couple of times on my Modrl RR.
 

WBahn

Joined Mar 31, 2012
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Damn! Missed that. Of course you are totally correct. I'll adjust tomorrow.

Hate those sneak circuits. Ran into them a couple of times on my Modrl RR.
Yep. That was how I learned about diodes. Was designing and installing a custom electrical system in my truck in high school and didn't know a thing about electronics and I had a ton of fuses in the control box and I wanted a panel light to indicate which ones were open and I wanted a single switch to enable or disable all of the indicators. But, of course, as soon as the switch broke the ground I had a bunch of sneak paths. Discovered the notion of a diode from the guy at Radio Shack and built a little box that I made a PCB (my first) that had a bunch of diodes and that I could fit into the interior of the box. Worked like a charm. Later, of course, I learned about LEDs that could have made things simpler, though I would then have needed the current limiting resistors and so might still have ended up with the second in-line box.
 

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tyler m

Joined Feb 28, 2017
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Thanks this helped a lot! However there is one more problem. The diagram shows that the there has to be a split between the two 9 volts, however I am using a battery tray, and I can't exactly split the 9 volts. I know its oddly specific but it can't change it.
 
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djsfantasi

Joined Apr 11, 2010
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Yeah, I bet you can split it. There had to be a connection between the two 9V batteries. Find it and solder a feeder to it. Post pics of your battery tray from different directions.
 

WBahn

Joined Mar 31, 2012
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Or just put a suitable resistor in series with the lamp (instead of the diode) and connect them in parallel with the motor.

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djsfantasi

Joined Apr 11, 2010
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Ahhh, there's the rub. Finding a "suitable resistor". The TS is using the engineering principle of "it just works". That is how he justifies running a 2.4V lamp at 9V! I dare to suggest that he knows not the correct voltsge of the lamp nor can he determine the current drawn. Both of which are necessary to select a "suitable resistor". I don't like my schematic either for some of the same reasons, but "it just works".
 

WBahn

Joined Mar 31, 2012
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The suitable resistor can be found by trial and error, if nothing else. If he has two lamps he could just use one a second lamp instead of the resistor.
 
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