How's the weather?

joeyd999

Joined Jun 6, 2011
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Yup, time to put the welding gloves in the car.

I think self driving cars will go over big in Southern Arizona, especially in the summer. You won't have to touch the steering wheel after the car has sat in the sun for a while.
But you still have to sit on the leather seats in shorts...
 

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#12

Joined Nov 30, 2010
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Rain for 2 days and then back to having the heat index over 100F. Must be summer!:)
I guess that's why I work from 10PM to 6AM. It's cooler.:rolleyes:
The inside of the car didn't have puddles (after 2 days of rain)!:p
Now I'm trying to catch an evening before sunset and below 90F so I can see if Turtle Wax makes the beast look much better.
All I can tell so far is that rubbing on the car makes water spots go away, but they will probably be right back as soon as rain falls on the wax.
I did find a 300 ft-lb torque wrench for $58 (delivered) instead of $85.60 at Harbor Freight.
I did not get a standard, 3/4 drive socket on the axle nut.:(
Had to order a 35mm deep socket from eBay.
Good excuse to put this job off for another week.;)
 

tracecom

Joined Apr 16, 2010
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It was sunny and the high today was 59F where I am...so you know I am not in Tennessee. The forecast is for 95F by the time I get home.

I am in a state with a one-syllable name.
 

cmartinez

Joined Jan 17, 2007
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29°C (84°F) and a clear blue sky. Finally, perfect weather for a BBQ! ... smoking some ribs (maggie-tajín style, with a dash of rosemary) for tonight... Will post results tomorrow in Tales from the grill
 

ronv

Joined Nov 12, 2008
3,770
38C (100F) and an inch of rain yesterday. Looks like our monsoons are starting early. Clear and cool today - a good day for golf.:cool:
Wished I was in Maine yesterday. @tracecom
 

joeyd999

Joined Jun 6, 2011
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Summer has been in full swing for the past two weeks. Torrential rain every day, and when its not raining, the humidity is high enough that you can swim in it.

Did some yard work Saturday. Five minutes in I was soaking wet.
 

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#12

Joined Nov 30, 2010
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I was in the car on the way home from work (at 3 pm) as the heat index hit 108F today.
I went through several cycles of drenching sweat, sitting in the air conditioning, then resuming work.
Now I'm soaking up air conditioning and various things to drink, and being grateful that job is done!

I swear, that customer must be related to Columbo. "Just one more thing" for 3 days.
I started out to replace a water heater and also found a bad circuit breaker, a leaky A/C drain, installed 6 GFCI outlets (with their special front plates), 2 smoke alarms, a security latch for a sliding glass door, a garage light that didn't work, a kitchen stove outlet, a mystery pipe in the back yard, two door locks and a dead bolt, some vinyl siding that had come loose, and a partridge in a pear tree. If anybody asks me why it took 3 days to install a water heater, I think I might slap their face.:mad:
 

cmartinez

Joined Jan 17, 2007
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Here's a dumb question, but I know you guys won't catcall, crucify, lynch nor in any way harm my self-esteem and fragile ego with otherwise snarky and derisive comments, nor subtle intellectual frowns for asking it... 'cause I know you all quite well and everyone here's a kind soul with a lamb's temperament and a peachy heart and ... well, here it goes anyway.

A few months ago, I bought my wife a weather station just like this one, and it's been working just fine ever since.
But among all the very interesting (and sometimes useless) data, it reports a temperature value called the Dew Point

I must confess I haven't searched what it means. One, because I'm feeling particularly lazy today. And two, because it sounds obvious to me that that temperature represents the temperature at which objects begin to form a film of water on their surfaces due to condensation. And of course it also has to be related to the relative humidity. (And how is that calculated, anyway?)

Joey just said:
Did some yard work Saturday. Five minutes in I was soaking wet.
So my question is:
The smaller the difference between the actual temperature and the dew point, the more uncomfortable one feels because one more easily sweats...
Is that assumption correct?
 

GopherT

Joined Nov 23, 2012
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So my question is:
The smaller the difference between the actual temperature and the dew point, the more uncomfortable one feels because one more easily sweats...
Is that assumption correct?
No, the lower the dew point, the dryer the air and the greater the imbalance between liquid water (Sweat) and vapor.

As water evaporates from a surface, the heat of vaporization causes the surface that the water leaves to cool (like alcohol evaporating from your hand feels cold).

The lowest temp that the surface can achieve is the dew point temp. So, in humid air, the dew point is high and sweating doesn't help much (e.g. you feel much cooler when your sweat leaves your body at a dew point of 15C than leaves your body at a temp of 25C )

Alcohol evaporating from your skin feels much cooler than water evaporating from your skin because there is no limit to the low temp of alcohol (there is no alcohol vapor in the air (usually)).

You sweat the same whether it is humid or dry (high or low dew point). It just tends to make your pits look wet when the air is humid.
 

ronv

Joined Nov 12, 2008
3,770
Here's a dumb question, but I know you guys won't catcall, crucify, lynch nor in any way harm my self-esteem and fragile ego with otherwise snarky and derisive comments, nor subtle intellectual frowns for asking it... 'cause I know you all quite well and everyone here's a kind soul with a lamb's temperament and a peachy heart and ... well, here it goes anyway.

A few months ago, I bought my wife a weather station just like this one, and it's been working just fine ever since.
But among all the very interesting (and sometimes useless) data, it reports a temperature value called the Dew Point

I must confess I haven't searched what it means. One, because I'm feeling particularly lazy today. And two, because it sounds obvious to me that that temperature represents the temperature at which objects begin to form a film of water on their surfaces due to condensation. And of course it also has to be related to the relative humidity. (And how is that calculated, anyway?)

Joey just said:

So my question is:
The smaller the difference between the actual temperature and the dew point, the more uncomfortable one feels because one more easily sweats...
Is that assumption correct?
They use dew point here a lot. When it's 110 the relative humidity can be pretty low when the air is pretty saturated. Dew point better describes how much water is in the air. We use it here. When the dew point is 56 degrees for 3 days or more it is our monsoon season.
 

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#12

Joined Nov 30, 2010
18,224
I think you need to learn about the psychrometric chart.
While looking for an example, I saw some alleged psychrometric calculators on the Internet, but I have never used one. The number of ways all the various names for conditions interact suggests that you would need to know exactly what you're looking for before you type in a question. The only way to know exactly what you're looking for is to see how many ways there are to describe the same thing.
 

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wayneh

Joined Sep 9, 2010
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I haven't followed this thread much because 980 posts about the weather seemed ... excessive. I didn't know you were talking about psychrometric charts!

The app I've been working on includes a complete and accurate psychrometric calculator coded by me. I use it to calculate energy content of air but I went ahead and included the other usual parameters of dew point, specific volume and so so on.

At a given pressure, you need just 2 parameters to describe moist air. Dry bulb temperature is usually one of those, but you need one more to tell you how much water there is. It could be the wet bulb, the dew point, the humidity or the enthalpy. Having one gives you the others.

I find the dew point the most useful. It tells you how the air will feel at any dry bulb temperature and how the weather might go as it cools off at night. You're not going below the dew point without rain or a front coming through. And opening the windows because it's cooling off to 68 degrees isn't a good idea if that's the dew point, since that air will be saturated and unbearably muggy.

Maybe you can guess what the app does.
 
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