Thanks Dave much appreciated. Unfortunately I don't have a TL431 on-hand but i did later find two M5236L linear regulator IC's . I haven't much looked at any circuits for it other than the example circuits that were included in the data sheets, hoping i can use that instead. We were hit with another snowstorm recently so digging out yet again and don't have much time for anything else, will get back to this in better times. thanks again.