Still going to put them in the dumpsters that go out to the local landfills, where half a million other old CRT based TV and computer monitor tubes have already went in the last 50+ years.

If they are so dangerous maybe some should be paying more for their collection so that people like me have a actual motivation to get rid of them that way.

If California tree huggers are stupid, what term do we use for a CRT crushing, dumpster-space stealing North Dakotan?

Unconcerned.

 

If they are so dangerous maybe some should be paying more for their collection so that people like me have a actual motivation to get rid of them that way.



Unconcerned.

Well, since they aren't too dangerous to the landfall, but much more dangerous to the person inhaling the dust of the smashed tube, keep smashing. (Lightly edited by moderator)

 

a random dumpster in town.

dumpster-space stealing North Dakotan?

I'm all for Dumpster space stealing.
Around here, it costs over $1000 per year to hire a trash can service. My business partner had 9 people living in his house and he put out at least 7 barrels of trash, twice a week. I live alone and set out one barrel every three weeks. Why should I pay the same as he pays? So I took my trash can to his place and set it next to his trash cans.

Disclaimer: I guessed at the price because I haven't hired trash service in over 20 years, and the last time I checked, it was $750 per year.

 

I'm all for Dumpster space stealing.
Around here, it costs over $1000 per year to hire a trash can service. My business partner had 9 people living in his house and he put out at least 7 barrels of trash, twice a week. I live alone and set out one barrel every three weeks. Why should I pay the same as he pays? So I took my trash can to his place and set it next to his trash cans.

Disclaimer: I guessed at the price because I haven't hired trash service in over 20 years, and the last time I checked, it was $750 per year.

Most places that I have ever known the management of have always said throwing a few bags in their dumpster is not an issue. It likely helps keep the community clean at no real extra cost to them.

Well, since they aren't too dangerous to the landfall, but much more dangerous to the person inhaling the dust of the smashed tube, keep smashing Mr Future Darwin Award winner.

Again, unconcerned. given all the other theoretically potentially dangerous things I do and work with a normal week or even a single good day.

I clean my mineral deposits off my sinks and toilets with muriatic acid, which obviously gives off chlorine gas, yet I'm still here. In fact did a half mile hike through the higher hills of the family property today without issue so obviously my lungs are still working fine.

 

The zinc, vanadium and silver salts will likely be the biggest issues. Not each the most toxic but when combined with solubility in biological fluids - and the quick solubility of the nano-scale particles one can see dangerous levels quite easily. Nickel salts can be surprisingly dangerous as allergens in the lungs when they are inhaled.

Also, the insoluble dusts like silicates and phosphates can stay in lungs for a very long time. They can cause coughing and mucus for extended periods. Not causing the continuous cutting action of of fibrous asbestos and associated scarring but the dusts will show up on an X-ray and look like asbestos silicates or worse and scare your doc.

Well, since they aren't too dangerous to the landfall, but much more dangerous to the person inhaling the dust of the smashed tube, keep smashing Mr Future Darwin Award winner.

AFAIK the 'phosphors' employed in modern CRTs aren't especially toxic -- The principal 'hazardous waste' concern being the 'leaded' glass... For all that it goes without saying that 'huffing' of the former is nix!

@uraniumhexoflorite FWIW -- Many counties (i.e. administrative districts of US states) accept loose CRTs for recycling wherever florescent lamps are accepted -- As a matter of safety and indemnity from liability please re-pressurize the tube{s} prior to disposal!

Best regards
HP

 

I clean my mineral deposits off my sinks and toilets with muriatic acid, which obviously gives off chlorine gas, yet I'm still here. In fact did a half mile hike through the higher hills of the family property today without issue so obviously my lungs are still working fine.

You are getting chlorine gas from hydrochloride acid solution? Nice work.

 

You are getting chlorine gas from hydrochloride acid solution? Nice work.

Aye! - Tho' I daresay (aqueous) HCL + NaOCl makes a nice 'fogger'

Best regards
HP

 

Aye! - Tho' I daresay (aqueous) HCL + NaOCl makes a nice 'fogger'

Best regards
HP

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15204781

 

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15204781

A mixture of sodium hypochlorite (bleach, 40%) and hydrochloric acid (18%) is commonly used as a household cleaning solution in our region.

--Emphasis Added--

Say what!?
Sometimes I wonder how our species made it as far as we have - SMH...

Well, anyway - it was certainly not my intent to recommend said reaction for any purpose apart from production of elemental Cl


Best regards
HP

 

You are getting chlorine gas from hydrochloride acid solution? Nice work.

Dump some muriatic acid on some common water mineral deposits (calcium, sodium, potassium, iron,etc based mineral deposits) and have a good deep breath of the yellow gas it gives off and then tell me what you smell and taste and then try and claim it doesn't have a dangerous amount of chlorine in it. I dare you, smart guy.

 

Dump some muriatic acid on some common water mineral deposits (calcium, sodium, potassium, iron,etc based mineral deposits) and have a good deep breath of the yellow gas it gives off and then tell me what you smell and taste and then try and claim it doesn't have a dangerous amount of chlorine in it. I dare you, smart guy.

I'm sorry but you'll need something like @Hypatia's Protege suggests, a strong oxidizing agent, to make Cl2. The HCl(g) vapor in the air as the solution evaporates is a choking, irritating gas but not likely containing much in terms of free chlorine if you are only cleaning some scale and rust.

Cleaning rust deposits with HCl is kind of self-defeating as you point out. The HCl works at the moment but the vapor just causes more rust. Use phosphoric acid to passivate the steel or use a product like lime-away, C.L.R. For a vapor-free acid wash or "Rust-out" a dithionite based product that is great at removing the rust color (iron stains).

 

I'm sorry but you'll need something like @Hypatia's Protege suggests, a strong oxidizing agent, to make Cl2. The HCl(g) vapor in the air as the solution evaporates is a choking, irritating gas but not likely containing much in terms of free chlorine if you are only cleaning some scale and rust.

Cleaning rust deposits with HCl is kind of self-defeating as you point out. The HCl works at the moment but the vapor just causes more rust. Use phosphoric acid to passivate the steel or use a product like lime-away, C.L.R. For a vapor-free acid wash or "Rust-out" a dithionite based product that is great at removing the rust color (iron stains).

I'm not a chemist. Never had much interest in it beyond the need to know basics for whatever I'm working on at the time. Muriatic acid cleans the mineral deposits right off better than anything else and that makes it good enough for me. Everything I have is either plastic, fiberglass, porcelain or stainless steel and obviously not affected by the acid as I have come to see.

Whatever gas it gives off is yellow/orange and has enough of a chlorine content to makes it unbreathable toxic. The details of its actual chemical makeup are irrelevant to me. It has enough chlorine in it to be unbreathable and that's all I need to know.

CLR and most every other cleaners don't do much to the minerals I have unless they sit for hours and get multiple applications plus a lot of unnecessary scrubbing work.

 

I've actually studied the problem of solid waste disposal and it's getting to be a serious economic issue.

People are now paying more to get rid of their garbage than for the children's education. Recycling is not enough either and the only workable solution is to go to Waste To Energy (WTE) which burns the waste and uses the energy to generate power. Furthermore, recycling is actually done in China or Asia where labor is dirt cheap and there are no safety or health regulations.

My philosophy is If you make it and consume it, you should dispose of it in your own community.

 

(This is not directed at Glenn)
The topic is "How to get rid of CRT tubes". Let's keep on topic, please.