hall effect switch problems

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jasonspinmaster

Joined Mar 1, 2008
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i have removed the 1k resistor from postive to the collector on the first transistor and i have connected up a wire from the collector to ground .

the transistor turns off
 

hgmjr

Joined Jan 28, 2005
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That confirms that the power transistor is good.

If you have a 2.2K resistor, you can replace the 1K resistor in the collector of the first transistor with it. That will allow the transistor to saturate more readily.

hgmjr
 

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jasonspinmaster

Joined Mar 1, 2008
57
i have placed a 2.2k resistor in the place of the 1k and

I GET A PULSE. it does not seem to be saturating fully but brilliant so far.
i am so happy after near a year YES
thank you very much a true hero
 

hgmjr

Joined Jan 28, 2005
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We still have some refinement left to make it so that you get a healthy pulse with both transistors saturating.

Lets try reducing the 10K resistor in the base to 4.7K if you have one. That will provide a bit more base drive for the first transistor so that is will turn on harder.

hgmjr
 

hgmjr

Joined Jan 28, 2005
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Ok. That implies that the first transistor is getting more than enough base current. Lets try increasing collector load from 2.2k to 4.7k. The power transistor is a darlington transistor so it should be ok to make this change.

hgmjr
 

hgmjr

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Can you remeasure the voltages (with and without the magnet) on the collector of the first transistor to get our bearings again?

hgmjr
 

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jasonspinmaster

Joined Mar 1, 2008
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from the collector of the first transistor i get 0.02 volts without a magnet and 0.75 when i place the magnet over the magnet.
my trigger magnets are only 1mm squared and my pulse magnets are 12mm if that helps
 

hgmjr

Joined Jan 28, 2005
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The 10K collector resistor has obviously overdone. I guess we should drop back to 4.7K for the collector resistor on the first transistor.

Change it to 4.7K and then check the voltages on the collector of the first transistor again.

hgmjr
 

hgmjr

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Before the next adjustment, it might be a good idea to have a look at the output voltage swing of the HE sensor.

hgmjr
 

hgmjr

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That is a very healthy signal out of the HE sensor.

What is your assessment of the performance of the overall circuit at the moment?

hgmjr
 

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jasonspinmaster

Joined Mar 1, 2008
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i am thinking :confused: . my coil is 26 gauge wire but i have a lot off turns on it about 1500 to 3000 turns. and it is an air coil which really does not help. i may have to make a smaller coil i will have to go back in to my room off tricks and make a new coil. if you do not mind waiting a few days i hope to build a new coil with a iron core this time.. i must thank you for all of your kind help, and i hope to show you my pulse motor works its true magic as soon as possible , thanks again
 

hgmjr

Joined Jan 28, 2005
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i am thinking :confused: . my coil is 26 gauge wire but i have a lot off turns on it about 1500 to 3000 turns. and it is an air coil which really does not help. i may have to make a smaller coil i will have to go back in to my room off tricks and make a new coil. if you do not mind waiting a few days i hope to build a new coil with a iron core this time.. i must thank you for all of your kind help, and i hope to show you my pulse motor works its true magic as soon as possible A real gentle , thanks againman
I will be around when you are ready to jump back into the effort.

hgmjr
 

SgtWookie

Joined Jul 17, 2007
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i am thinking :confused: . my coil is 26 gauge wire but i have a lot off turns on it about 1500 to 3000 turns. and it is an air coil which really does not help. i may have to make a smaller coil i will have to go back in to my room off tricks and make a new coil. if you do not mind waiting a few days i hope to build a new coil with a iron core this time.. i must thank you for all of your kind help, and i hope to show you my pulse motor works its true magic as soon as possible , thanks again
Holy cow, that's a lot of wire!

If you want to save yourself some trouble, you could try salvaging a coil out of a 12vac relay or an 8vdc relay. The DC coils have a greater number of turns than the AC coils. Since in your application the spindle will be turning, thus switching the current on and off to the coil, so an AC coil would be more appropriate.

It already has an iron core, and the right amount of turns on it.
 
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